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what's the end goal here Zohran. 'Socialism' (actually social democracy) but with a roving gang of armed and organized fascists that we just ignore? are we just going to kick the issue of systemic racism down the road because it's "woke 1" to even talk about, until it becomes a powder keg again? this is the actual internal DSA white chauvinism contradiction that MSM are clawing to find but they won't use it as a real wedge because it'd increase the salience of Defund again

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[-] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 14 points 16 hours ago

I think its just a fundamental limitation of sewer socialism or reform socialism or whatever. Especially without the threat of revolution. You can't take on the most powerful reactionary elements because you're playing a game that depends on their cooperation. You can't push them too hard, especially now, because there are far right revolutionary factions out there. So you're stuck going soft on police, stuck downplaying white supremacy, &c.

Revolutionary struggle is much more free to critique the system because it doesn't need to limit itself to bourgeois democracy. Elections can be a tool, but they aren't the only available avenue. Yes the stakes are higher, but so are the rewards.

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