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Just a reminder (thelemmy.club)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16451158

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[–] 1 point 1 month ago* (4 children)

Not sure about Fascism existing in any appreciable form during the end of the feudal period in Western Europe.

Would you mind checking? In France there were the Terrors and Bonaparte; in England, there was the East India Companies; in the Netherlands, there was the conquest of spice and the Banda Massacre; in Germany and Italy, there were militaristic state unifications; and in Spain, there was the Inquisition and the Carlist Wars.

Are these the instances of 'appreciable form of fascist valence' you mean?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    France is one of the epicenters of fascism for sure and France itself is a fascist nation supplying weapons to the world. You ever listen to their national anthem.

    England spread its imperialism far and wide and birthed a nation that went on to cause more damage than any nation before it.

    The East India Corporation invented corporate lobbying and was instrumental to the rise of corporations.

    The Netherland, in particular the Dutch, once held the reserve currency before England took over it and caused massive suffering through the Dutch East India Corporation.

    Yes, a lot of these nations laid the ground work for what we would consider modern day fascism and they have fascist tendencies to this day. As I said in the beginning, the entire world became fascist with the US toppling democracies and instituting fascism whenever and wherever it could. Seventy countries that we know about but I can guarantee the US had its hands in many more than this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    the entire world became fascist

    If the entire world became fascist, where does a stable, non-imperialist country like Cape Verde or Costa Rica fit into your framework? Are they fascist too, or are there actual non-fascist societies today?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Costa Rica is far less fascist having no standing army than most nations. Their history is disheartening in the past, but they have made several reforms and are currently rated highly by human rights organization.

    On the other hand, they have been vassalized by the US long ago and have recently helped with their human rights abuses. I suppose they don't have much choice when faced with the manipulative power of the fascist US.

    Also, remember fascism is a scale not all or nothing.

    While it has been fun playing sow the doubt of fascism and that fascism is really just another word for X (hard to tell what that word is for you). I am afraid you have never really made any sort of point in a long time or ever really.

    I suppose you just don't want to share your unique wisdom with me. Perhaps you will share it with someone else someday. Cheers!

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