I need a pull up station, NOT a pull up bar, because I plan on doing bodyweight dead lifts in the middle of summer AND winter and jungle gyms just dont cut it in the fall and winter obviously. Im only 5’9 and Im in toronto if that helps.
Any ideas please? Could I just go to like a landfill and pick up some discarded metal bars and like get them welded together? Or do I just buy one of those big coat racks and remove the wheels on the legs and weld on a steel platform for each of the legs??
Thanks to anyone who answers.
Edit: oh sorry forgot to add that I live in an apartment so I cant screew in anything cause its illegal . also those pull up bars that use thresholds to stay put are also not enough for me because I plan on doing some absolutely looney stuff on that pull up station lol.
and by Bodyweight Deadlifts I mean this: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SjqhGRQcMJE
I also plan on doing this: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/EVCeuFlBRHc though I have no idea what the exercise is called but FlexyDave showed it to me and I fell inlove with it. And Ill even be swinging while Im upside down like that. AND Ill be doing abdominal curls or 'upside down sit-ups' (if thats what theyre called) as Im upside down like that.
And Muscle Ups.
I will start the analysis with the simplest case and then work upward. Supposing 75 kg on a normal doorway leverage-based pull-up bar and doing just purely-vertical pull-ups and curl-ups, this is within the design specifications for such pull-up bars. An example: https://www.garagegymreviews.com/equipment/iron-gym-total-upper-body-workout-bar
However, because this type relies on your downward bodyweight to press the bar into the doorframe, no swinging motion of any kind is allowed: all movements must be purely vertical.
There is another type of doorway pull-up bar that is akin to a tension rod, but I simply cannot ever recommend these in any scenario, because they have all the limits of the leverage-based one, in addition to also applying a weird expanding force that no doorway is ever designed for.
If the leverage-based pull-up bar was screwed in above the doorway, this would make it more securely attached, but not to the degree that you could swing full bodyweight around. And if you were already going to drill holes, you'd want something that definitely attached to the studs, so that it would genuinely allow you to swing full bodyweight away from the wall. Example: https://repfitness.com/products/wall-mount-multi-grip-pull-up-bar?variant=41067582914718
But maybe you actually want to swing in bitj directions from the bar, or may even over. In that case, you'd have to be farther from a wall or door and would looking at something that is mounted to the ceiling studs (properly called joists). Example: https://ultimatebodypress.com/products/ceiling-mounted-pull-up-bar-with-patented-reversible-risers-for-16-and-24-inch-joists
Ok, but wait, basically all of these remaining viable options involve holes in the wall, so none might be workable. Can we use a standalone/freestanding like this? https://thesportsroyals.com/
The issue here is that such a tower has no problem with vertical curls and pulls. But because the legs are fairly narrow, there's only a limited range of swinging forwards/backwards before the tower itself tips over, taking you with it to the floor.
Supposing your requirements are rigid, the only other solution I can envision is some sort of triangular frame like a children's swing set, where the center is a bar, where the triangles are as deep as they are tall. If the base cannot be that wide, then it would have to be weighted at its corners.
As a design, this is extreme difficult to find pre-made. But a variant would be to look at 4-post power racks, which can satisfy the depth and height requirements. For example, the REP PR-5000 can be configured as a 6-post rack, with the middle posts set using 30" depth to the front posts and 30" depth to the rear posts. In your case, would not mount the pull-up bars on the cross members as normal, but would put them on the middle post, at whatever height you want.
I don't have exact numbers right now, but such a six post setup would already weigh something like 140 kg in steel, minimum. And bring over 2 meter deep and 1.2 m wide, the geometry is highly resistant to toppling, even if you swung 200 kg inward and outward. If it needs any more stability, a power rack easily accommodates adding weight plates at each post, to really make sure it doesn't move.
But at this point, such movements would require 4 meter ceilings to do safely. And I think I may be entertaining the engineering here too much. What I will say is that if you're doing gymnastics, then you have to use gymnastics gear, not resistance training gear. Swinging is not a general design goal for resistance training gear. This is the same reason why an exercise pole (aka stripper pole) is not going to be comparable to steel conduit for electric wiring.
If there is even a spectre of a doubt that your gear isn't well-suited to your specific goals, then some reevaluate should be done. You may want to look at what a commercial gym has, if the same would work for you; gyms sometimes don't have studs or joists to use, so their equipment is selected accordingly.
Ya with bodyweight deadlifts and muscles ups you need to swing over the bar to do the move with correct form. Thanks for this. Ill try to read and understand all this but Im admittedly a caveman when it comes to reading comprehension so you may have to ELI5 some of this if you have the time.
If you have specific, additional questions, I'm sure you can create a new post in this community to get additional information. You can link back to this comment to provide the full context.
Ill just reply to your originial comment with any questions I have if that works for you.
My client intentionally drops threads that go too deep -- as a way to preserve my time -- so you might not get an answer this way.
so I should just reply to your most recent comment in this thread if I have any questions?