this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2023
629 points (98.3% liked)

World News

38977 readers
3533 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK... Can we free Assange or Snowden?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's no 'freeing' Snowden. He dumped US intel, got scared, and decided to move to Russia of all places, where he couldn't be charged or extradited. He has now lived there for a significant portion of his life. For the entire war against Ukraine. If he were half as critical of Russian or Chinese spying as he is American, I might see things differently. Point is, he made his own choices and moves a long time ago. His allegiances are clearly elsewhere. Maybe he was dumb enough to believe the Russians and Chinese respect privacy more than Americans.

I'd rather see Navalny freed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He didn't decide to move to Russia. The US revoked his passport during his layover while he was en route to Ecuador.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think you can say he didn't make the decision to move to Russia at some point. You don't get there accidentally, and his decisions most certainly brought him there. And that's where he lives and has lived for many years now. I think you can see the hypocrisy of the situation. If he did what he did in America in Russia, he'd be dead. If he were FSB and leaked internal Russian intelligence, they would kill him. If government spying is his concern, he moved to the worst place, and practices very selective criticism. That's primarily what I take issue with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TIL that having your passport revoked while you are traveling is the same thing as intentionally moving somewhere

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TIL you can also practice selective reading. Why do you think he hasn't criticized the Russian government?

If anyone is interested, here's what really happened:

"On June 21, 2013, the United States Department of Justice unsealed charges against Snowden of two counts of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 and theft of government property, following which the Department of State revoked his passport. Two days later, he flew into Moscow's Sheremetyevo International Airport, where Russian authorities observed the canceled passport, and he was restricted to the airport terminal for over one month. Russia later granted Snowden the right of asylum with an initial visa for residence for one year, which was subsequently repeatedly extended. In October 2020, he was granted permanent residency in Russia. In September 2022, Snowden was granted Russian citizenship by President Vladimir Putin, and on December 2, 2022 he swore the oath of allegiance."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao thanks for writing the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're welcome, asshole.