Okay, turns out I lied because now you are making an actual argument. I called you disingenuous because you weren't actually saying anything meaningful or actually engaging what i was saying.

I never shied away from the fact that i think stealing is sometimes the more moral option nor did I brush past this. Sometimes stealing is good if it keeps people alive. I think more people being alive is good. The system being the problem is not disconnected and i think is the bigger point here. I think your anger is fundamentally misplaced and that this misplaced anger and frustration is harmful to vulnerable people in hard sotuations while codifying the current systems that keep people poor and vulnerable.

Almost no large corporation experience a level of theft that requires them to increase prices. Many large stores have been having record profits, while the value of stolen goods amounts to less than 1% of the generated profits. So if an elderly woman on a fixed income can't afford her groceries anymore, it is most likely not because theft caused a store to raise its prices, but rather because executives decided they could get away with raising those prices. I reject the notion that these large corporations are actually significantly impacted by theft no matter what they say because the numbers tell a different story.

Again if elderly folks cant afford necessities it doesn't help to blame other poor people. The system is the problem so we need to change the system, not punish other poor people harder. You cannot separate my argument for theft being moral under certain circumstances from the recognition of the system being the actual problem. The former is the branch the latter the root, and if you want to effect meaningful change you need to strike the root.

Ideally i want a world where everyone has access to everything they need without stealing, where everyone has equitabble access to food, energy, clothing, etc, but we arent there yet and the system perpetuates injustice which sometimes requires on to shoplift to survive.

They should steal what they need, as long as it's from big corporations and not from other struggling people. Because I cannot change the system, so stealing is the only option.

And help can be in the form of donating to the food bank, volunteer at the salvation army, or like me, help out at the neighborhood community house to help people with doing taxes, request subsidies like child support and apply for the food bank, provide homeless people with warm clothing during the cold months, etc. I also help with a soldering club, to repair broken devices so people don't have to buy new ones or refurbish discarded devices which will be donated to people in need.

In my city there are many social systems to help people. I help people use these systems. If your city/country doesn't have systems like these, you can help by setting them up with foundations.

A group is as strong as the weakest link. If we ensure the weak will have a better life, the entire group (our society) will profit from it with less substance abuse, less crime, better quality of life, heath and and safety. Improving quality of life starts at the bottom, not at the top.