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I have to keep reminding myself that China's drug policy has its origin in historical trauma and the opinions of its people reflects that. They really think weed is like heroin or something it's tragic.

Gonna go smoke some weed about it

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[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

It really isn't though. Everything can become a habit but there's no withdrawal associated with weed except insomnia in heavy users which is easily alleviated and not a symptom specific to weed (like you're just used to sleeping more sedated, anything sedating causing this).

It doesn't have the dopamine reenforcement or opiate reenforcement that makes you fiend for it. Like ciggies will have you snapping at everyone and crawling up the walls unable to think about anything else, weed just has you feeling a bit bored cause you're so used it it.

Shit running is more addictive lol.

[-] casskaydee@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

there's no withdrawal associated with weed

Bullshit. I've gone through withdrawal every time I've quit heavy THC concentrate use cold turkey, which is nearly a dozen times at this point. It's hell. Constant vomiting, migraines, temperature control gets fucked so you're always feeling both hot and cold at the same time and sweating out all the fluid in your body which you can't replace because you can't even think about sipping water without scromiting.

No investigation, no right to speak

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's not a symptom spread associated with anything I've seen in the literature, although as concentrates are quite newly popular research into them is sparse. They do seem to be behind the rise in cannabis hyperemisis syndrome, so it's not out of the question that at doses nobody using the flower or standard hash would ever be exposed to something else happens.

Or that there is adultration of products sold as concentrates with something harmful.

When you say migrane do you mean a bad headache? or the seizure headache thing associated with hallucinations, slurring/difficulty speaking, and multiple days of distorted experience. Those symptoms are in line with migraines and it's possible you're triggering them. Do you have a prescription for triptans? Have you tried them as a treatment?

You probably shouldn't take something that results in days of constant vomiting though, you need to be in hospital if that's happening as aspiration and severe dehydration become significant risks during uncontrollable vomitting.

[-] casskaydee@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

You are quite insufferable aren't you

[-] abc@hexbear.net 1 points 18 hours ago

Please keep in mind you can just not reply to someone if you disagree with them; you aren't obligated to throw out an insult in what was a benign conversation.

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Well, that's kind of you.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you have obviously never experienced severe weed withdrawals lol. or, respectfully, done any actual investigation on the issue. it's simply not up for debate whether weed is physically addictive, it is. the idea that it wasn't was just kept afloat for years by stoner cope (speaking as a 10yr stoner myself). weed does have dopamine reinforcement. you can fiend for it. the withdrawals aren't dangerous in any direct sense like with alcohol or heroin, but they are real physical effects.

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I mean I used it constantly from like 18-22 and quit easily after a week of insomnia that I just took first gen antihistamine sedatives to overcome.

It was easier to drop than world of Warcraft, it has no physical component at all. Even caffeine causes splitting headaches and brainfog.

I think most people who feel that weed is addictive haven't actually messed with addictive drugs like nicotine, opiates, benzos, meth etc. The only difficult thing about weed is how you structure your life about it, aka the habit. That's true of any avoidant behaviour though.

If you spin it (mix with tobacco) you'll fuck yourself but that's because if the nicotine.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it doesn't matter whether you "feel" it's addictive or not, it's a matter of scientific consensus. you are arguing in favour of ignorance and common misconception, universalising your singular personal experience with the drug. again respectfully urge you to perform more investigation before speaking

[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I can see papers basically exploring habit forming conditioning and some theoretical speculation about cannabinoids possibly enhancing addiction to other drugs. What specifically are you talking about?

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Have you read these? I just read through about half of the first one and it's not very convincing. The severity of symptoms is extremely mild and they don't have comparisons to cessation of other drugs or habit forming activities.

It's sedating, and withdrawal of a sedative is associated with increased excitation sure. But we need to meaningfully differentiate the difficulty you have sleeping after abruptly stopping exercise or trying to sleep in the middle of the day from persistent and disabling neurochemical changes. Like the it's not clear that the irritability or whatever is separate from the withdrawal of any other pleasurable activity.

The number of people they describe having severe enough symptoms to continue use across the studies reviewed is around 3%. I suspect you'd see more impressive numbers for coffee lmao.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago
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