Artificial intelligence labs are in a new arms race to buy up millions of rare books, slicing them open, scanning the pages and pulping the remains — sparking concerns that the last remaining copies of out-of-print texts are being destroyed on an industrial scale.

ISBNdb notes that “print books from the pre-LLM era are structurally guaranteed to be free of this contamination”.

“Millions of the most valuable books have never been digitised. They exist only in physical form, scattered across library shelves, used bookstores, and out-of-print catalogues. We get them to you at scale.”

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[–] 36 points 2 months ago* (18 children)

What's the point of destroying books after scanning them instead of reselling them apart from *hurr durr we are evil*?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    To keep their competitors from buying them and scanning them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    That seems to be the most likely reason. Bastards.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Sorry, but I did an oopsie. I watched the video linked, they destroy the books to scan them. It's really sad. Though I'm sure they would destroy them anyway.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    They take apart the books to scan them. There's no scanner in the world that deliberately destroys the paper it's scanning. They pulp them because that's more advantageous to them than reselling or archiving the disassembled pages.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Do make sure that knowledge is only available through their model and otherwise lost to humanity.

    Same with bombarding small websites until they give up and pull the plug.

    Everything is fucked

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Copyright. They mustn't make a copy. There is legal precedent that confirms it's okay to transform the copy you bought into digital format. The Internet Archive relies a lot on that. I think they actually litigated it in the first place. So that's why the copyright heads are going so absolutely apeshit. If no one's charging you rent for using some data, then it's "unethical".

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    The Internet Archive absolutely does not destroy books. They scan them the hard way with the binding still intact.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Fair use loophole, they claim they convert one physical book into one digital with no illicit copies, while also supporting the delusion of AI being an equivalent to a human reader. It is weird on so many levels but no one of noticeable weight asked them wtf.

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