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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by litchralee@sh.itjust.works to c/micromobility@lemmy.world

In brief, UK reporting on "ebike" collisions and battery fires confuses lawful, UK/EU-compliant electric bicycles with illegal, unregistered, uninsured electric motorcycles. As a result, public perception is deeply skewed compared to the actual risks posed by bona-fide electric bicycles.

A similar phenomenon can be seen in California, but there is drafted legislation to mandate accurate advertising of "e-motos" versus ebikes, with fines accruing to vendors that fail to correctly represent what they're selling.

IMO, it's hard for me to blame consumers whom, given high gasoline/petrol prices, need some form of transportation that gets them where they need to go and minimizes external harms (eg automobile risk of injury). Evan correctly identifies vendors and importers that flout the law and push the legal risk into riders. At the same time, e-motos are legit for off-road use and here in California, they're great fun in that regard. At bottom, fair advertising isn't controversial; it's no different than wanting to know the ingredients in food products.

On a separate note, Evan also flagged a case of police misidentification and confiscation of a lawful e-bike. Which I find particularly surprising, given that UK police tend to be more uniformly instructed than their American counterparts. No doubt that Californian police have also confused ebikes with electric motorcycles on occasion, but the result in the UK seems is to go immediately to confiscation and destruction without any meaningful system of review. Which seems problematic, at best

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[-] fpslem@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I like your rule about starting on a hill or carrying up the stairs. That's a real bike.

Having said that, I do like a throttle on an ebike for getting off the line with a heavy load of groceries. ๐Ÿ˜„

[-] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's really only an issue with cadence sensors. I've never had an issue starting with a load on a torque sensing bike because the assist is immediate. If we banned throttles, I think we'd just see a lot of the worst offender, shitty cadence sensing bikes become non viable and a lot more torque sensing options. It would eliminate the cheapest segment initially, but I think that's ok. Eventually the better tech would get cheaper.

The other big problem is that so many people use the throttle as a crutch because they don't have the basic skills to be in the right gear based on the situation. This is again just very basic safe operator fundamentals.

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