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[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 5 points 3 hours ago

There is a difference between foreign politics and using Cambridge Analytica style tactics on the population of a neighboring country. If you are so aware about propaganda, you should also see the difference in scale here. I live in one of those countries, and family members of mine have been fucking brainwashed by this style of propaganda to the point where they support far-right parties which want Ukraine to just roll over and die.

I am no friend of the USA. But nothing the USA does makes anything Russia is doing any better - An Eye for an Eye is fucking stupid, regardless of context - it only serves to prolong conflicts. Since NATO is allied with the USA, joint military operations on EU soil are a matter of fact - at least until Trump finally withdraws from NATO, which is something i can't wait to see.

They are already saying they are fighting NATO! They proclaimed that pretty early into their SVO. They are also telling their population they are fighting a "shadow cabal", something like the crap the nazis said about the jews. I ask you: If a regime stoops so low to use the same crap that the nazis did to manufacture consent, is it different from the nazis?

The economic ties were used to make us addicted to russian oil and gas; it nearly worked. The pricing increases for energy and heating were a major factor for the increasingly high polling of far-right groups who promised to get us cheaper carbohydrates. I say that the economic ties that Russia prepared (UNDER PUTINS WATCH) were nothing else than an attempt to make sure Europe stays silent when Russia uses their military to expand once again.

Regarding your citations of drone strikes:

On 23 March 2026, a Ukrainian drone crashed near Lake Lavysas in the Varėna district of Lithuania. The Centre for Eastern Studies reported that the drone likely veered off course during an attack on the Russian oil terminal in Primorsk, possibly as a result of Russian electronic warfare measures.

In Estonia, one drone struck the chimney of the Auvere power station, about 2 km from the Russian border. The Estonian government said there were no injuries and no damage affecting the station's operation.[3] According to the Centre for Eastern Studies, the incident did not disrupt energy transmission, and the intended target may have been Ust-Luga.

In Latvia, a drone crashed in the village of Dobročina in Krāslava Municipality. The Centre for Eastern Studies said the Latvian and Estonian incidents were likely caused by similar factors and that the drones may also have been intended for Ust-Luga

On 29 March 2026, Finnish authorities reported a suspected territorial violation by unmanned aerial vehicles in the southeast of the country. The Finnish Air Force identified one of the drones as a Ukrainian AN-196, while two drones fell in eastern Finland near Kouvola.[13][14] The following day, Reuters reported that the Ukrainian drone found north of Kouvola had carried an unexploded warhead, which Finnish authorities destroyed in a controlled detonation. Ukraine apologised for the incident and said that no Ukrainian drones had been directed towards Finland, attributing the deviation to likely Russian electronic interference.[15]

Electronic warfare can make drones go off course. Thats nothing new, and Russia even jams areas where they shouldn't be doing it; Russia is trying to fuck with GPS all over Europe, and Kaliningrad is a big fucking ECM station. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz23G_UXCGA

Regarding the Missile Strike: Would that AMRAAM have been fired if Russia hadn't sent 20 Drones into Polish airspace via Belarus? 1,2,3 drones can be a mistake or caused by jamming, 20 are a planned operation.

Your sources have been read, and were found to be lacking to support your standpoint. You may try again, but this time try to be less pro-russia in your arguments, because there isn't any difference between someone who is pro-russia and a fucking nazi to me, and i do not converse with nazis, i punch them.

[-] LeoDalPozzo@infosec.pub -4 points 2 hours ago

There is a difference between foreign politics and using Cambridge Analytica style tactics on the population of a neighboring country. If you are so aware about propaganda, you should also see the difference in scale here.

You are using one of the biggest AMERICAN scandal to say that Russia is doing the same. Do you see the issue here?

Electronic warfare can make drones go off course

Yes, that's exactly my point. the drones that we are being told are just a signal of an impending military attack from Russia, most of the times are just jammed Ukrainians drones

Regarding the Missile Strike: Would that AMRAAM have been fired if Russia hadn’t sent 20 Drones into Polish airspace via Belarus? 1,2,3 drones can be a mistake or caused by jamming, 20 are a planned operation.

Again you are just parroting a viewpoint that it's just an opinion and pure speculation. No fact proves that it was a deliberate attack.

They are already saying they are fighting NATO!

NATO countries are providing to Ukraine weapons, ammunitions, intelligence, specialised troops (for the pointing system of some air defence systems), fundings, GPS and target data. Doesn't seem so crazy for me that they are saying they are fightning NATO. Equipare that to the possibility of Russia actively attacking a NATO country is a choice based on your feelings, not really a fact.

The economic ties were used to make us addicted to russian oil and gas; it nearly worked.

So they wanted to make addicted to their gas and oil so they could declare war to us later and stop that commerce entirely? i don't see the logic

I say that the economic ties that Russia prepared (UNDER PUTINS WATCH) were nothing else than an attempt to make sure Europe stays silent when Russia uses their military to expand once again.

So Russia has built strong economic ties with the EU so that when Russia would attack the EU (so basically NATO), the EU will stay silent and let them do? This is literally nonsense.

You may try again, but this time try to be less pro-russia in your arguments, because there isn’t any difference between someone who is pro-russia and a fucking nazi to me, and i do not converse with nazis, i punch them.

I engaged in this conversation because i assumed an open mindset and an academic approach towards the issue. You ask for sources but the only one you provide is a youtube video and based on the flimsiness of your claims, that's probably the maximum extent at which you "study" conflicts. Then you end the speech with a pathetic tirade over nazis to show how though you are and obviously hinting at the fact that, at one point you had to say it, i'm pro-russia in your mind. I really try to have a discussion that doesn't end in a toddler-level conversation or people just choosing a faction like if it was a footbal team, but if this is the level of the conversation i don't see benefits in continuing it.

[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 hours ago

Ok mate, were done here. You are a fucking tankie in disguise who was sealioning from the beginning, and i won't engage with that crap anymore. Crawl back to your .ml friends and boast about how you wasted everyones time here.

[-] LeoDalPozzo@infosec.pub -4 points 2 hours ago

This comment shows your real colours and how actually shallow you are. You don't have anything to back up your claims, you say at the same time that the drones are russian jammed and that they are a deliberate attack to test defenses. You don't realise that a lot of people having a feeling doesn't transform that feeling on a fact. Especially if that feeling is carefully crafted by a gigantic media machine. Easier for you to call me Tankie, Russia-friendly, even nazi even if the only thing to back this up is that i disagree with your "analysis". You are just the result of a sick society where people are tought that ther opinion always matters even when based on other people's opinion only and when confronted can only shut the door and close themselves in their own bubble. That's ok, i hope you people will not drag us all to doom thanks to your armchair analysis based on a youtube video.

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