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My criticism is not about the news outlet itself, even if, as the earlier responder to my comment pointed out, they make bold and unsourced claims, which is bad journalism practice, even if very common nowadays. My point is that every day this sub is bombarded with news about the war coming from ukrainian outlets, which will be of course extremely partial, as they have to be if they want to keep writing under martial law. I never see a russian domain posting news here because they would be rightfully considered unreliable. I'm amazed that instead every single ukrainian website is allowed here even if it's clear propaganda (euromaidanpress the worst offender) that uses as sources almost exclusively communication from the government or the state apparatus. We are being bombarded with one sided news that come directly from the Ukrainian state. That's not less propaganda because we are sympathetic with the country that it's producing it.
I just hoped that at least here there would be more attention, care and quality of the discussion.
I understand that we all are targets of propaganda. But the facts laid down in the article are just common sense for everyone that has interest in military things. Russia doesn't care (they didn't even before the war - intruding into NATO airspace to measure reaction times was a common occurrence back then, although i am sure NATO did something similar), drones are cheap and violate airspace, Air-to-Air Missiles cost 10-100 times what the drone costs.
I can't see your earlier responder, which means he is from the fully Putin-pilled .ml instances - the only thing outside of a handful of single users i have on my blocklist. I don't see what he wrote, but I advise you to take whatever they told you with a grain of salt - these are the instances that have proven themselves again and again as authoritarian sockpuppets.
I follow what happens on the battlefield in Ukraine on the regular, and the difference between the two sides is sourcing. If Ukraine claims to have destroyed an armored assault (just as they did 2 days ago), you get video evidence of the whole thing delivered with it. (could still be faked, i agree). Russia on the other side claims they have taken over Kostyantynivka months ago - such claims simply do not survive contact with reality, because in that case they would be hitting their own positions with glide bombs on purpose.
This leads to an easily understandable consequence: If one side only lies (or has delusions), and the other side tries to be as transparent as they can in a war situation, independent reporting will take communication from Ukraine a lot more serious than the unverifiable lies the Kremlin produces. Add to this that free press in Russia is defacto non-existent (the so called "mil-bloggers" of russia are very often FSB assets and just another arm of the Kremlins propaganda machinery designed to collect data on the most dangerous part of civilians to the regime - those that are interested in the war and might disagree with it), while it definitely exists in Ukraine; This situation makes russian sources nearly unusable.
It is not the fault of Ukrainian news outlets that Russian reporting can't be used to offer a different viewpoint - that well was poisoned by Putins clique themselves.
You are still presenting a very partial viewpoint, where Ukrainian outles are considered fair and attempting to be transparent while the other sode doesn't. I'm very interested and study "military things" and i have studied this conflict for about 7 years now, so i hope i can bring a useful viewpoint. If you actually want to study a conflict or conflicts in general, it's fundamental to be as close as poasible to the sources and unserstand the problem of uncritically accepting the viewpoint coming from one of the two belligerants. Labelling people from an entire instance "putinist" is already a red flag for me. I've been called putinist a million time just because i invite people to have a more accademic and historical-based approach to this and other conflicts. My opinion of Putin doesn't seem to interest to anyone, if i don't glorify Ukraine and agree with every piece of propaganda they push, i'm definitely with the ebemy.
A great example is the Institute for the study of war, which is the main source for western media about Ukraine. They are a huge propaganda machine that sell themselves as neutral but it's an absolutely pro-ukraine source. I read their reports almost daily and they tought me a great deal of the power of propaganda in war times. A great example is the recent worldwide celebration for Russia apparently not gaining as much terrain as they used to and even Ukrain gaining some. This is all over the news, but when you go look it up you find out that this reversion on the battlefield happen when the ISW added a new item to their maps: "russian infiltrations". Now if they see only few soldiers advancing in an area is not considered an advancement, but an infiltration, which doesn't get reported in the maps. No newspaper seems to be interested in pointing this out to clarify the data they give us, the same way as nobody mention that the sources of the ISW are for the almost totality either the Ukrainian defense ministry or telegram channels affiliated with combating units. None of these sources will give reliable or objective information.
I understand not trusting russian news, i don't trudt them either, but i found way more interesting to stufy the discrepancies in the sources we are presented as reliable.
Sadly, you‘ll hardly find the discussion you‘re longing for on here.
lemmy.world has an extreme western bias and is intolerant towards voices critical of the west.
Whatever narrative is the currently one preferred from the Zeitgeist, will get (partially pro-actively) amplified here. Arguing for the genocidal practices of Israel and excusing any kind of support from US and European states is still accepted. Being critical, doubtful or in opposition to the Ukraine war is frowned upon and will get you called names.
Repeating islamophobe, sinophobe and russophobe stereotypes is part of the etiquette.