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[-] picklerick@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

im new and sitll just wrapping my head around the lemmy concepts asis and this seems like incredible lore I missed so if someone would be so kind to fill me in it would be much appreciated

but I can always get behind javascript hate!

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tesseract is/was an alternative frontend for Lemmy sites. Its developer β€” asimons04 β€” hid malware in it. It would secretly download an obfuscated ban list with instances, communities, and people that asimons04 wanted to personally discriminate against and it would silently shadowban them from any site that used Tesseract.

The bans were heavily anti-fash leftists and queer folks, including yours truly.

This was discovered through some community sleuthing in the last several days. Asimons04 has since ~~deleted their repos and accounts and disappeared~~ moved repos to break forking and posted an unhinged rant to dubvee.

@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com has forked Tesseract since it had some nice features and they seem to be working on thoughtfully removing the malware.

Those finding their name on the list are treating it as a badge of honor, since it shows that asimons04 was a conniving fascist bigot.

The rabbit hole begins here.
https://lemmy.world/post/49778353

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Haha his stupid rant has -110 last I checked. πŸ˜‚

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 10 hours ago

After reading his rant and the block list Im curious what content is left after all the blocks

[-] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

an obfuscated ban list with instances, communities, and people that asimons04 wanted to personally discriminate against and it would silently shadowban them from any site that used Tesseract.

Link to list:

https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The fucking balls on him. Acting like he is doing everyone a favor. He can ban who he wants from his instance, that's how federation is supposed to work. What he did was add a secret shadowban list at a software level just to bypass the modlog and force it on everyone.

His behavior and response are ridiculous. We shouldn't even be federating with anything using tesseract. The guy and his repo should become a pariah.

Not to mention he tries to pretend it's about making the place peaceful and less toxic but bans communities like WholesomeYuri and small news comms.

[-] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

lol what a sad, petty, loser you'd have to be to go through the effort of creating a whole front end to block communities/people you don't like. It's beyond pathetic.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'm having a hard time believing he created the frontend for the purpose of blocking. But still, pretty petty.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

I defy that tosspot to point to the place on the doll where i "nutbag violent crazy" hurt him (I'm on the list)

I guarantee its in the place where somewhere along the line I told him i didn't give a shit about his personal opinion. And building a goddamn hidden stasi list based on your fee fees and trying to shove it out globally is not fucking rational

what an honor to get on that list! if you can find the code that blocked you, you should frame it.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I am line 137. β€οΈπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸŽ‰

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Play 1-3-7 in the Lotto. He’ll really love you then. πŸ˜‚

[-] 58008@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I'm not on the list, but I happened to scroll randomly onto this fella when checking:

Line 1208: fartographer

πŸ˜†

[-] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh damn I'm in there too. I barely even have a comment history lmao.

[-] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

Omg I gave up after line 500. Just why??? This list is like an incel's fantasy Death Note. Just sad really.

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I just did a search on the page for my name. No hits. 😭

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Holy shit, that's a good number. I'm 2397. I feel like it took me too long to get noticed..

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 2 points 9 hours ago

It may not have been in order, but if it was, I am fucking honored. I'm line 91

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

You got noticed at least πŸ’”

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Woohoo! I thought for sure I’d be on there, but not yet. πŸ˜‚

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Your day will come, young Padawan.

I'm not on the list. Maybe they thought I was a placeholder.

[-] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Ah hell yeah! I made the list!

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

I hadn't heard of Tesseract until now. Looks hellishly messy, the interface is nasty.

[-] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An admin of an instance dubvee ptz/AdmiralPatrick published a frontend for Lemmy - a different interface to look through - called Tesseract. Many instances provided it as an option for their users.

Something around a year ago they suffered a burnout from fediverse (idk how) and seemingly cut their presence here.

Just recently, db0 instance admin got a funny result from updating their server software. They couldn't see their own instance's posts through that frontend, it was reporting an error. Going around it with a magnifying glass, they learnt, that an update to Tesseract silently shipped a new filtering engine with a list by dev. It downloads said list as the frontend starts, so you (1) won't see it on github and (2) they have all power over what you see or not. Content matched with that list by instance, author or regex keyword doesn't show up, like it isn't there at all.

It appears, not only spam or fash dens were there, but a lot of active instances incl. db0 and lemmy.ml (that you are on) were on the list, as well as many individuals. In a long post AP argued, that they wanted their frontend not only to spice up the interface, but also to provide a better normie-friendly look at a fediverse, to make more people stay (unlike them), without anything upsetting, or "toxic" as they say, meaning anything slightly political or verbally violent too. And as some users wondered what's left of fediverse with that opinionated filter applied and what it says about that person's leanings

others took being in the list as a medal of honor, and started memeing about that, and talking about dev's shadowy practices. The overwhelming majority was not having it, excluding maybe Rimu, a Piefed dev, who soberly corrected that there was actually a misleadingly named switch to turn filtering off - and iirc they had some sort of a drama themselves recently, so it may come off natural to them.

Either way, this piece of software was forked by multiple users to exclude shadowban list. Memes roll, people are jelly they aren't in the elite club, and we get another story about small power causing god-like delusions in a person. Unanswered though stays the question of why the fediverse, seemingly the size of town, has a capacity for drama.

I'm not sure I got everything right, but other people's writeups appear under almost any post concerning that matter, so you can see if they cover it better than I.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Here is a post explaining it: https://sh.itjust.works/post/63897215

It just happened. Tesserect is a front end to Lemmy (like old.red-dit) that was actually nicely built, but apparently taken over because it was abandoned. Since you're new, being on different instances is a little opaque to me as a non-techy, but here's my experiences

  • I think the largest instance is doing the same thing.
  • Your instance is known to be full of aggressive trolls and are the lead developers of Lemmy. Most of us take user by user, so you don't have to change instance. But if you get a lot of people hating on you for seemingly no reason, that's probably why (or they're trolls, we have them here). Lemmy was developed by the admins of your instance
  • I've only heard good things about piefed, but haven't made the switch myself to try it, since I'm a mod on lemmy. It would be a pain to switch back and forth.
[-] picklerick@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

thnx! what do you mean about my instance though? i signed up here because when i came from reddit i was told this was the one for leftists?

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I guess you have to describe what you personally call a leftist. Then I can tell you if it fits.

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Wait, aggressive trolls are the lead developers of Lemmy?

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Hmmm, they were I guess you could say. I haven't heard anything lately, so either they've chilled or use alts.

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