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[-] thisislieven@europe.pub 46 points 1 day ago

This is really good news and part of the verdict may also prove valuable in the fight for privacy rights and against chat control.

Both courts of the CJEU have shown again and again not to fear ruling against nations and EU institutions and by extension move the European project forward unlike the four political institutions (Commission, both Councils and Parliament). They also actually seem to know what they're talking about.

In the fight against chat control I had partial faith in Parliament until Metsola started torturing the rules and manufactured an outcome last week. I do still have faith in the courts and I think, hope, ultimately that's where this fight will be won.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago

I have zero faith as long the EPP are in control and will keep pushing and pushing until ~~big tech~~ they get their way.

[-] thisislieven@europe.pub 3 points 1 day ago

The EPP has no integrity, that's their biggest problem imo. They just move where it's politically most convenient hence they're now rubbing against the far-right. In the past they were more in the centre as that was were they could find majorities (and power) which made them less problematic. Under current circumstances I'd be glad if that's where they ended up again for a few years, though I'd rather see them decimated.

But, yes, the infiltration of big tech in the EU and its power centres is extremely problematic as well and I don't quite understand why we allow them that power (I mean, I do but...).

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 2 points 1 day ago

SD and Alde voted along willingly too, despite statements to the contrary. Rotten filthy liars one and all.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Yes true, but the EPP is far more worrying. They made up the majority of attendees voting in favour of chat Control, well orchestrated, they also pushed it through in a way that has never been used before with only a few days to make the vote knowing that many of the other members wouldn't be available to vote. Metsola made a big speech about democracy and accusations flying about x and y, and declaring interests being important, Pushing that vote through was completely undemocratic.

There are plenty of examples of the underhanded tactics used by them, and they are by far and large the biggest party in the EU. All politicians do it, but we really don't stand a chance if the biggest party is this corrupt this early on, siding with US big tech due to lobbying (aka bribing) on a level never before seen.

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