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[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) so why dont you get a trade school diploma for one of those? should be simple enough if you already have experience the reason they ask for diplomas is because it's difficult to prove someones competence if they dont have that piece of paper, unfortunately permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) Because school is expensive and time-consuming and I'm already working full time to BARELY get by. I love school (well, I love learning), but it's simply not an option for me at this point in my life. Obviously I've looked into it (and have a fair amount of student debt to prove that I've tried more than once), but I always have to make the choice between going to school or eating and paying rent, and I usually want to eat and have a place to live. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) agh, that really sucks. i thought trade school was free in all western countries i know university education isn't always free, but trade school costing money is news to me and news that doesnt make any sense in my head permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We have a federal program in the U.S. called Job Corps that does provide free technical training in a WIDE variety of trades, but it's woefully underfunded these days, and not well known due to having a reputation as the sort of place wayward youth go to instead of juvenile hall, and you have to be between the ages of 16 and 24 at the time you start. Free education isn't really a thing here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i hope the DSA folk get more influence there, they seem like the only force actually capable of doing any real change within a reasonable time period permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I mean, yes, but the DSA has had a problematic and interesting history (I say this as a former member/member at large). And it's important to remember that they're not a political party and can run no candidates themselves (which would never work if they tried), so their best bet is to try to turn the DEEEPLY entreched liberal Democratic Party, which is like pulling teeth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect 1 point 1 month ago Everything costs money in America. Everything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect 1 point 1 month ago They give that piece of paper to rapist celebrities like Bill Cosby for no reason than they are famous. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) Because school is expensive and time-consuming and I'm already working full time to BARELY get by. I love school (well, I love learning), but it's simply not an option for me at this point in my life. Obviously I've looked into it (and have a fair amount of student debt to prove that I've tried more than once), but I always have to make the choice between going to school or eating and paying rent, and I usually want to eat and have a place to live. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) agh, that really sucks. i thought trade school was free in all western countries i know university education isn't always free, but trade school costing money is news to me and news that doesnt make any sense in my head permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We have a federal program in the U.S. called Job Corps that does provide free technical training in a WIDE variety of trades, but it's woefully underfunded these days, and not well known due to having a reputation as the sort of place wayward youth go to instead of juvenile hall, and you have to be between the ages of 16 and 24 at the time you start. Free education isn't really a thing here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i hope the DSA folk get more influence there, they seem like the only force actually capable of doing any real change within a reasonable time period permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I mean, yes, but the DSA has had a problematic and interesting history (I say this as a former member/member at large). And it's important to remember that they're not a political party and can run no candidates themselves (which would never work if they tried), so their best bet is to try to turn the DEEEPLY entreched liberal Democratic Party, which is like pulling teeth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect 1 point 1 month ago Everything costs money in America. Everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) agh, that really sucks. i thought trade school was free in all western countries i know university education isn't always free, but trade school costing money is news to me and news that doesnt make any sense in my head permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We have a federal program in the U.S. called Job Corps that does provide free technical training in a WIDE variety of trades, but it's woefully underfunded these days, and not well known due to having a reputation as the sort of place wayward youth go to instead of juvenile hall, and you have to be between the ages of 16 and 24 at the time you start. Free education isn't really a thing here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i hope the DSA folk get more influence there, they seem like the only force actually capable of doing any real change within a reasonable time period permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I mean, yes, but the DSA has had a problematic and interesting history (I say this as a former member/member at large). And it's important to remember that they're not a political party and can run no candidates themselves (which would never work if they tried), so their best bet is to try to turn the DEEEPLY entreched liberal Democratic Party, which is like pulling teeth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] architect 1 point 1 month ago Everything costs money in America. Everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) We have a federal program in the U.S. called Job Corps that does provide free technical training in a WIDE variety of trades, but it's woefully underfunded these days, and not well known due to having a reputation as the sort of place wayward youth go to instead of juvenile hall, and you have to be between the ages of 16 and 24 at the time you start. Free education isn't really a thing here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i hope the DSA folk get more influence there, they seem like the only force actually capable of doing any real change within a reasonable time period permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I mean, yes, but the DSA has had a problematic and interesting history (I say this as a former member/member at large). And it's important to remember that they're not a political party and can run no candidates themselves (which would never work if they tried), so their best bet is to try to turn the DEEEPLY entreched liberal Democratic Party, which is like pulling teeth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) i hope the DSA folk get more influence there, they seem like the only force actually capable of doing any real change within a reasonable time period permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I mean, yes, but the DSA has had a problematic and interesting history (I say this as a former member/member at large). And it's important to remember that they're not a political party and can run no candidates themselves (which would never work if they tried), so their best bet is to try to turn the DEEEPLY entreched liberal Democratic Party, which is like pulling teeth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I mean, yes, but the DSA has had a problematic and interesting history (I say this as a former member/member at large). And it's important to remember that they're not a political party and can run no candidates themselves (which would never work if they tried), so their best bet is to try to turn the DEEEPLY entreched liberal Democratic Party, which is like pulling teeth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) can u elaborate on what you find problematic about their history? i'm curious cus i only really know about their present day stuff and not even much about that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Ohh, a few years ago there was a series of (verified) SA and harassment allegations levied at some of the national leadership, around the same time there was a pretty big controversy surrounding the misappropriation of funds donated my members and also membership dues, and for this reason the Libertarian Socialist Caucus largely dissolved and left the organization. It was a whole kerfuffle permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) damn, that's a mess. i hope that kind of stuff stays in the past and they can move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago Me too. It gives me hope that they're supporting more and more radical candidates, though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] architect 1 point 1 month ago Everything costs money in America. Everything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] architect 1 point 1 month ago They give that piece of paper to rapist celebrities like Bill Cosby for no reason than they are famous. permalink fedilink source parent