Mark Carney Is Governing like It's Wartime (thewalrus.ca)

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[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Even the CIA said that Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Even if Iran was really trying to create nukes, the legal way is to debate it in the security councils than vote on a proposition to stop it not starting a war unitarily

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 days ago

Are you referring to last year when Russian asset and cult member Tulsi Gabbard said they aren't building a nuclear weapon... but also admitted they were enriching uranium to a higher levels? Is that your source? What are they enriching the uranium for, Tulsi?

Yeah, I'm just going to stick with listening to the IAEA (and the basic logic of uranium enrichment above 5% having no purpose other than for a nuclear weapon) and ignore whatever comes out of the US cabinet clownshow.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Every single credible CIA report and reports from other intelligence agencies concur that Iran is not seeking nuclear weapons. You are the one falling for lies, not us.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 days ago

Show me them.

If you're going to accuse me of being a liar then show me all of the reports you're basing your claims on.

I have actually searched for this information. I have found reports that do not say what you claim. There are damage assessments on the Iran nuclear program from last year. How could there be damage to a program that doesn't exist? There is testimony to congress about the progress of Iran's nuclear program. So right away your statement that "Every single credible CIA report" is a lie. Might sound convincing to people that won't look up these reports, but it's obviously a lie to anyone that has.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I am reading statements from the IAEA right now. I haven't seen one that claims Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons. Difficult for me to prove that no such statement exists though, so feel free to link one

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

You don't know how to use a search engine? Fine I'll spend ten minutes on this for you.

Here's the page on Iran: https://www.iaea.org/topics/monitoring-and-verification-in-iran

Here's a web page where they mention Iran has 400KG of uranium enriched to 60%:

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-general-grossis-statement-to-unsc-on-situation-in-iran-22-june-2025

We must return to the negotiating table and allow the IAEA inspectors, the guardians of the NPT, to go back to Iran’s nuclear sites and account for the stockpiles of uranium, including, most importantly, the 400kg enriched to 60%.

The IAEA site is kinda shitty and a lot of things is in PDF only, but here's the report from just before the Fordow bombing (Midnight Hammer) last year:

https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/25/06/gov2025-25.pdf

First section of the Summary:

While Iran continues to cooperate with the Agency on matters of routine safeguards implementation, in a number of respects as outlined in this report its cooperation with the Agency has been less than satisfactory. In particular, Iran has repeatedly either not answered, or not provided technically credible answers to, the Agency’s questions and has sanitised locations as listed in this report, which has impeded Agency verification activities. The withdrawal of the designation of several experienced inspectors was also not in line with the required spirit of cooperation.

TLDR; IAEA states that Iran had uranium purified to 60% way above the 5% needed for civilian use and they started hiding shit from the IAEA.

How do you explain why Iran would be doing these things? It's a nuclear weapons program, because it involves uranium purified above 5%. That's just science. Why would Iran be hiding things from the IAEA if they had a completely civilian nuclear program? Please apply basic logic.

[-] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

So, the IAEA already knew about this, but the supposed problem is that they put the uranium in a different location after the US canceled the nuclear deal and then started hitting their civilian nuclear facilities with missiles? Ok

also, I can do without the insults btw.