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The House passed a bill Tuesday that would make daylight saving time permanent. Proponents, including the White House, argued the change would provide more daylight during the times that Americans are most active. The vote was 308-117.

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe for you. Solar-noon only aligns with human-noon at specific longitudes (and iirc only really on the equinox). The further out from the longitude (and the further out from the equinox), the more drift the there is between solar noon and human noon.

Grab a straight stick and a compass. We got a couple hours to test this the old fashioned way.

Try spending a winter in New England and only seeing the sun on your commute and on weekends. EST is a bigass timezone and New England is the furthest east.

I'd be happy if we were on permanent AST (GMT-4:00), but permanent EDT I guess is the same.

[-] Scrawny@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Huh? Solar noon is exactly the same for everyone on the same longitude. People at the equator have noon at the same time as someone in the north. The only difference is the zenith of the sun and how long the forenoon and afternoon are.

Unfortunately the timezones are pretty wide so only in the center of the zone would be the closest to the solar mean.

I think people fail to realize that Northern latitudes always have bigger changes in day/night time than southern latitudes. Changing the time zones doesn't change the fact that Northern latitudes will always have more daylight in summer and more darkness in winter than the Southern more equatorial latitudes.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Longitude != Latitude.

I get them confused sometimes but then I just think of Jimmy Buffet..."Changes in attitude...changes in latitude".

But yes. New England gets doubly-boned for being both on the far North and far East stretches of a very large time zone. Not as boned as, say, Halifax..or maybe Quebec or Montreal...but there's as many people in just Rhode Island as there are in Nova Scotia.

[-] mx_smith@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Think of it like a ladder, the long part of the ladder is the longitude and the ladder rungs are the latitude.

[-] baronvonj@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Seriously, summer days in Calgary were long as fuck compared to Texas compared to Panamá.

[-] baronvonj@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Try spending winter in New England ..

I spent 12 years living in actual England and Canada. And I've also spent plenty of time in Pamaná and Costa Rica. The real problem is the year-round work/school schedule. We should be changing that to match the sun instead of changing our definition of time of day.

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

I won't say the time zone system we have is perfect, far from it, but they way to fix the problems with it isn't to shunt every single time zone 15 degrees east.

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