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[-] aurellence@lemmy.ml 90 points 19 hours ago

“If you want AI that tells you when something is fake and where it came from, AI can do that,” he says. “Humans can’t, we’re not that smart.

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[-] brsrklf@jlai.lu 10 points 13 hours ago

AI detection by AI is not reliable. Lots of false negatives, and comparatively less but still too much reporting false positives to be reliable (and those are especially biased).

It's unlikely to get better too. If AI was able to reliably detect AI output, why not use that to correct itself to be less AI-like? And where is the seemingly infinite money thrown at in this struggle?

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

If AI was able to reliably detect AI output, why not use that to correct itself to be less AI-like?

You just described adversarial training, something I've been hearing about for at least a few years now.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 23 points 19 hours ago

How could that even be true since it was humans thay trained ai. What a dumb statement ahh

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 18 hours ago

Ai can do plenty of classification tasks better than humans though. It's not like every entity that trains another is fundamentally smarter.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 14 hours ago

Yeah but to say humans can't do this when humans doing it were what provided it the data is a dumb statement. Humans classified the data so that AI could learn you wouldnt say humans can't classify data.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -4 points 14 hours ago

Humans can, ai can do it better than humans in many areas though.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

That's a MUCH different statement though, and not at all relevant to a claim that AI is able to do things humans CAN'T do.

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 0 points 9 hours ago

In most areas it can't. It can do a much worse job though, if that is what you are looking for.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Software can't tell truth from lies because software doesn't even know what those are. It doesn't know anything. It's a parrot, a magic trick, a mirror to fool people (people like George Lucus) into thinking there's another person looking a back at them.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Regardless many ai classifiers outperform humans at classifying. Your comment seems irrelevant to the discussion.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Your comment seems irrelevant to the discussion.

As opposed to your comment moving the goalposts from an AI doing something humans can't, to them just being better than humans (which is absolutely arguable in most cases)?

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

The parameters set for classifying that are basically non-existant. So no, they can't really do any of that. AI-bros will readily claim they can though, because it is like really important to them.

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