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A woman drives with both hands on the wheel. Her phone sits face-down on her lap. No officer pulls her over. No lights flash. Weeks later, a $1,251 ticket arrives in the mail. The evidence: a single frame from a Camera surveillance app. The charge: phone use while driving.

Automated camera companies market their devices as automated license plate readers — tools for catching stolen cars, flagging warrants, and aiding serious investigations.

Sold as a Crime Tool. Used as a Fine Machine.

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[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

Yes, but you slam on the brakes or maybe brake too sudden and it flies off and onto the floor. It could potentially slide under a pedal (like the brakes), hindering its function.

Is it likely? Probably not, but it is a dangerous hazard waiting to happen.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Okay - so charge her with having an unsecured object in her vehicle.

The fine was for use of a phone while driving, when the phone was not in use. Not for having unsecured items in the vehicle. Not saying it's a good idea to drive that way - it's pretty clearly not - but that's not the actual issue here

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

you slam on the brakes or maybe brake too sudden and it flies off and onto the floor. It could potentially slide under a pedal (like the brakes), hindering its function.

That's nothing but speculative and hypothetical, and not a violation of any statute. That might happen with a lunchbox or a bag of groceries. Your phone might fall out of its window mount suction cup if you brake hard too. Your floor rug might scoot up over your accelerator pedal and cause an accident. If any of those happen, they might be the "reason" for an accident but the fact that the potential exists isn't a violation. You might wish that were so but it's not.

this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2026
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