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I'm fairly new and don't 100% understand it yet, but instances are run on servers that require money. Are we heading towards seeing ads or subscriptions to raise funds instead of relying on donations to cover overhead?

Especially with the influx of new users. Hardware upgrades are needed.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People could monetize individual instances. They can't monetize the whole thing because its open source software.

I'm kind of shocked how many young kids don't get this.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is okey not to understand it. Don't be rude. You were also not born with knowledge of the principles of free software and fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah its more that I assumed each generation would get naturally better at tech, but its more like cars where the first generation knows how to fix them and subsequent ones don't, because the cars get so good that you don't need to

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's some truth to that. The computers I was first exposed to costs thousands of dollars and all you got was a text console with a prompt. You had to figure out how to make the magic box do something meaningful.

Now a Raspberry Pi computer with 1000x more compute power, memory plus network connectivity costs $6. The equivalent of the computers I originally learned to program on is now basically a disposable commodity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I recently experienced this while building an upgrade for my 3D printer. The upgrade kit included a touchscreen. I found out later that the touchscreen was effectively its own separate computer with more than 10x more resources than the actual computer inside the 3D printer that was doing the most important calculations.

The compute and memory resource constraints were basically nonexistent factors in the design of the printer and the upgrade kit. Merely, a simpler computer was easier to design for and characterize, so the printer itself had a very simple computer, and for the UX, a "beefy" computer was much easier to program. It's bizarre seeing how little the amount of computer resources mattered. It might as well have been free.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really wish those 6$ raspies were easily accessible though.
Your point still stands, it wasn't easy getting a tower in the olden days either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I really wish those 6$ raspies were easily accessible though.

Orangepi was the alternative for a while. There are lots of "knockoffs" that are even cheaper these days. RPi decided they wanted to focus on business customers first and have kind of strayed from their mission in exchange for (likely) perpetuity and subsidizing the hobbyists and poor people they are supposed to care about.

LTT did a good video on alternatives 4 months ago. That's a while in this market though, so I'd definitely shop around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just bought a few at adafruit. I didn't realize they were in short supply now.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Shockingly- I’ve heard from a few of my teacher friends that the upcoming generation isn’t that computer savvy. (EDIT- “traditional” computers that is).

We’re starting to see the “tablet kids” grow up. They were raised with iPads and iPhones. And they didn’t have to deal with figuring out how to “deal with the inner workings” to download a bunch of computer programs. Their typing skills are apparently not that great as well for the same reason.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the consequence of so many years of idiot-proofing things. While not necessarily a bad thing most of the time, having shit that "just works" absolutely ruins troubleshooting skills. I see it all the time with my nieces and nephews.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how long until the fediverse is monetized?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Why male models?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I confidently told my retired parents that I thought we were approaching a world where self-hosting and open source would be far more common, I'm disappointed that it sounds as if I overestimated computer literacy in the new generation :(

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The average person is just as unlikely as ever to understand the processed behind the tools (conputers) they use. But the nerdy kids of each generation have more access to knowledge that lets them nerd out even harder. And the connectivity of the internet gets ideas shared easily. If someone is interested in a hobby these days they have a knowledge base that only the most dedicated nerds had back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

it might happen anyways if the new cool thing is hosting microservices like social networks, video streaming, etc for friend groups

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The average person is just as unlikely as ever to understand the processed behind the tools (conputers) they use. But the nerdy kids of each generation have more access to knowledge that lets them nerd out even harder. And the connectivity of the internet gets ideas shared easily. If someone is interested in a hobby these days they have a knowledge base that only the most dedicated nerds had back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can confirm. I've heard the exact same thing from several teacher friends as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Everybody has to learn everything some time.