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[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 22 points 21 hours ago

How do you control for things like never having written an in person exam before, panic from last minute change, etc? Learning to write tests is a skill, especially in university. I assume it was pen and paper? I write by hand quite a bit still, but I'm sure I would struggle. I don't think I form thoughts the way I used to. I mostly start typing the go back and rearrange it, etc.

I don't object to in person exams but maybe the kindest approach is to do it from the start of the semester.

I sometimes wonder if people forget how short youth is. I truly don't think they are lazy or dishonest. I think they have failed by so many adults in so many different ways. I can't imagine the mixed messages they are getting about how AI is going to do the things for us and it's going to make a lot of the old skills we have useless but then they have to learn the 'old' ways anyhow. If they are in their 20s they are absolutely looking to the older folks for confirmation on things they haven't experienced. I don't think we are doing a great job of explaining why the old skills are still needed.

The cheating part feels like maybe there have been no consequences so they think it's not a big deal? Again, you can't just tell them "don't cheat" if there is no explaining why and you don't enforce it. I know online exams were a COVID thing but I'm honestly surprised we didn't transition back, with accommodations for people who need them. You can't just give them tests they can do with no proctor, and on a computer that can access AI and expect them to think you take this seriously.

[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 7 points 20 hours ago

How do you control for things like never having written an in person exam before

It's only one course, how could they possibly have never done an in-person exam before? They've made it to university; they would have done dozens before and during their time there.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 9 points 19 hours ago

I don't know that's a good assumption anymore. These students are probably the ones who had zoom from home "school" through formative years, with Chromebooks pushed on them before that. Schools were dropping handwriting from curriculum long before LLM/agentic forms of AI.

Heck, I was graduating high school around the time the first iPhones were coming out and I barely wrote. It was maybe 1-2 essays per school year max, not exactly enough for robust skill development. Exams were almost all multiple choice or 1-2 word short answers at most to make grading more efficient.

[-] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

So I work in higher ed and this is actually occam's razor - students will take advantage of any tool they can get their hands on (which is to say cheat) at the drop of a hat. And a lot of college courses are completely honor system, especially remote classes.

Today's smart professors are using authorship tools and doing in-person exams for good reason.

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