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[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

Can we please stop using this lib-ass gotcha? The Nazis called themselves socialist to steal away support from the actual left. In practice there was nothing socialist in their politics - they broke trade unions, privatised industry, destroyed whatever meagre workers rights had been allowed by the bourgeois state. They weren’t on the side of workers - not even Aryan ones

[-] CutieBootieTootie@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago

Ultimately imperialism has to be opposed in order to oppose capitalism; imperialism and imperialist production is an extension of capitalist development, conquest, and extraction of the global south.

If one's "socialism" doesn't oppose imperialism, and thus the imperialist war machine, then one's socialist beliefs and actions ultimately end up as a recuperative force to make a nicer capitalism for those living inside the imperialist nations. This is social democracy. Fascism also represents a recuperative force for capitalism and the bourgeoisie, and arises due to internal crises of capitalism and bourgeois control over society. Social democracy and fascism both act as a recuperative force for capitalism and do not challenge capitalism; this is why people say that social democracy represents the left wing of fascism.

Ultimately, no, the comparison is apt. The imperialist nations enforce a holocaust against broad swatches of the global south, just because they're brown and out of sight for Britons doesn't mean it's not just as bloodthirsty a view.

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