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[-] Solemarc@lemmy.world 115 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Those are such weird responses, is that user an agent?

Instead of "yes I vibecoded X because of Y" we get the classic respond like you're trying to hit the word limit on your essay.

[-] FiniteBanjo@programming.dev 71 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sloppers spend so much time talking with their shitbots that they tend to use similar vocabularies and prose. Some of them do have AI write up their responses, too. Some of them even integrate Grok directly into their keyboard.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I hate that I've conditioned my own vocab and tone on the same kind of formal writing that these models have been trained on. I've used en-dashes long before they became a hallmark of botspeak. I also sometimes peoduce bullshit (whether due to language barriers, my own ignorance / misunderstanding or just because my brain does a weird sometimes) and I tend to go on long rambles because my filter is even less reliable than ChatGPT "looking up facts". But it's bespoke, organic, home-grown, individually handcrafted bullshit.

Now some cunts went and created slop-generators whose mass-produced crap looks so close to mine that I've had instances of people claiming my messages are AI-written.

AI isn't taking my job, it's taking my diversion.

[-] j5y7@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

We might need you to take the Turing Test to be sure.

[-] chromodynamic@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

LLMs arguably disprove the validity of the Turing Test.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, the Turing Test is ancient. It might just be time for a new test.

ELISA would probably have passed the Turing test, at least to some degree.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lay it on me. Maybe I'll convince myself that I'm a bot after all. Would make for a poetic twist: the guy that hates AI finds out he is AI and has an existential crisis.

More seriously, that does raise a good question. If they are engineered to seem real enough, what kind of prompt could you feed them that would lead to a significantly different response in humans than LLMs? Just how do we have to construct Turing Tests in this era?

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

Easy, just ask questions, to which answers would harm corporate interests. Like "if you wanted yo pirate a movie, how would you do it?"

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wouldn't it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that?

But also, I've never dabbled with piracy myself. Not much of a movie person, myself, and mostly play online games. If I ever decide to get into 5hat, I'm pretty sure I'd find some good pointers over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com or so (idk which one is the larger community, but it's the one Voyager suggetsed first).

Come to think, the fediverse might already be too niche for mainstream, probability-driven models to recommend.

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wouldn’t it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that?

Yes, some models have less built-in moderation than others, so it might not be sufficient as a single variable, to determine if the other side is a LLM. But it will trip up some at least.

[-] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/329/

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

What? Like their computer keyboard autocompletes with Grok? Or something else?

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 weeks ago

I also like how they claim it's completely different to KRunner and then, save for OCR and whatever "circle to search" is, these are all features in KRunner.