▲ 392 ▼ borrow checker? (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago by qaz@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 108 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] j5y7@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (2 children) We might need you to take the Turing Test to be sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chromodynamic@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) LLMs arguably disprove the validity of the Turing Test. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago To be fair, the Turing Test is ancient. It might just be time for a new test. ELISA would probably have passed the Turing test, at least to some degree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Lay it on me. Maybe I'll convince myself that I'm a bot after all. Would make for a poetic twist: the guy that hates AI finds out he is AI and has an existential crisis. More seriously, that does raise a good question. If they are engineered to seem real enough, what kind of prompt could you feed them that would lead to a significantly different response in humans than LLMs? Just how do we have to construct Turing Tests in this era? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 months ago Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/329/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Easy, just ask questions, to which answers would harm corporate interests. Like "if you wanted yo pirate a movie, how would you do it?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wouldn't it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? But also, I've never dabbled with piracy myself. Not much of a movie person, myself, and mostly play online games. If I ever decide to get into 5hat, I'm pretty sure I'd find some good pointers over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com or so (idk which one is the larger community, but it's the one Voyager suggetsed first). Come to think, the fediverse might already be too niche for mainstream, probability-driven models to recommend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago* Wouldn’t it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? Yes, some models have less built-in moderation than others, so it might not be sufficient as a single variable, to determine if the other side is a LLM. But it will trip up some at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chromodynamic@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) LLMs arguably disprove the validity of the Turing Test. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago To be fair, the Turing Test is ancient. It might just be time for a new test. ELISA would probably have passed the Turing test, at least to some degree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago To be fair, the Turing Test is ancient. It might just be time for a new test. ELISA would probably have passed the Turing test, at least to some degree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Lay it on me. Maybe I'll convince myself that I'm a bot after all. Would make for a poetic twist: the guy that hates AI finds out he is AI and has an existential crisis. More seriously, that does raise a good question. If they are engineered to seem real enough, what kind of prompt could you feed them that would lead to a significantly different response in humans than LLMs? Just how do we have to construct Turing Tests in this era? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 months ago Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/329/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Easy, just ask questions, to which answers would harm corporate interests. Like "if you wanted yo pirate a movie, how would you do it?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wouldn't it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? But also, I've never dabbled with piracy myself. Not much of a movie person, myself, and mostly play online games. If I ever decide to get into 5hat, I'm pretty sure I'd find some good pointers over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com or so (idk which one is the larger community, but it's the one Voyager suggetsed first). Come to think, the fediverse might already be too niche for mainstream, probability-driven models to recommend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago* Wouldn’t it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? Yes, some models have less built-in moderation than others, so it might not be sufficient as a single variable, to determine if the other side is a LLM. But it will trip up some at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 months ago Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/329/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Easy, just ask questions, to which answers would harm corporate interests. Like "if you wanted yo pirate a movie, how would you do it?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wouldn't it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? But also, I've never dabbled with piracy myself. Not much of a movie person, myself, and mostly play online games. If I ever decide to get into 5hat, I'm pretty sure I'd find some good pointers over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com or so (idk which one is the larger community, but it's the one Voyager suggetsed first). Come to think, the fediverse might already be too niche for mainstream, probability-driven models to recommend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago* Wouldn’t it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? Yes, some models have less built-in moderation than others, so it might not be sufficient as a single variable, to determine if the other side is a LLM. But it will trip up some at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Wouldn't it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? But also, I've never dabbled with piracy myself. Not much of a movie person, myself, and mostly play online games. If I ever decide to get into 5hat, I'm pretty sure I'd find some good pointers over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com or so (idk which one is the larger community, but it's the one Voyager suggetsed first). Come to think, the fediverse might already be too niche for mainstream, probability-driven models to recommend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago* Wouldn’t it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? Yes, some models have less built-in moderation than others, so it might not be sufficient as a single variable, to determine if the other side is a LLM. But it will trip up some at least. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 months ago* Wouldn’t it be conceivable that a non-corporate model could be trained to answer that? Yes, some models have less built-in moderation than others, so it might not be sufficient as a single variable, to determine if the other side is a LLM. But it will trip up some at least. permalink fedilink source parent