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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

This is peak Gaben simp meme. Steam were the pioneers of "you don't own the game, you just own a licence to play it" model which has caused massive amounts of enshittification of the gaming industry. Not to mention all the other bullshit they've pushed over the years.

But valve always gets a pass because dumbass games think "lord Gaben" is their best friend because he sells other peoples games for 90% off some times.

[-] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Games that have been delisted are still available for download as long as your account has a license for the game. That's at least better than Sony, since they have attempted revoking people's licenses on at least two separate occasions.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Microsoft pioneered the "your software is licensed, not owned" in the early 80s. Even before Steam, you didn't own your games. Even if they are on physical media, you don't own the software on the media; you just own the media it came on.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

The problem is that I sometimes must connect to Steam to get my games, and I have to disable the domain blockers in my firewall. It sucks because Steam is worse than Google with the amount of queries, and you know those douches are selling our info.

Nothing pisses me off more than buying a product and finding out later that I have to compromise privacy to use it.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

FCKGW, but yes.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone -1 points 10 hours ago

This is what I keep telling people. This whole game 'ownership' debate is only happening because no-one ever reads the EULA.

[-] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

I hear this more frequently nowadays, but it really is kind of misplacing the blame for this change. Steam went for this model precisely because many of the bigger game companies to this day refuse to sell their games as anything but a heavily restricted license. And Steam as a storefront does have to cater to them in that regard, especially back then. Even physical disks as others pointed out were technically not something you owned, but rather that resale and such was not enforced or enforceable. (You would definitely get some stern letters if you started copying and selling those games at larger scale, even if you 'owned' the original copy).

People do still sell DRM free games on Steam that you can copy and distribute to essentially your hearts extent without Steam ever getting involved. The license you have is for Steam to provide you the download service so you can get your digital copy (and a bit more). If you care about people owning games, then it's up to you to support and buy from the kinds of companies that don't provide you a license or (more likely) where the license is unrestricted enough to fit your description of ownership. The middleman like Steam you buy it from shouldn't matter if they don't exert undue control beyond that. And at least being on PC if you really must buy something with DRM you have options to remove it.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 19 hours ago

Idk man. I remember someone recommending spec ops: the line a few weeks ago, but said it's not available on steam any more. I bought it eons ago and had no problem besides controls getting it on my deck.

[-] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

Have you finished it yet? It's best played through fairly quickly so you can remember different parts. There are a couple of frustrating encounters, but the story is top notch.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 18 hours ago

Fuck me! No I got like 2 hours in a while back but my god damned AuDHD had me focus on something else.

[-] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

Not a particularly bad place to stop, I got a few hours in, stopped, then when I picked it back up I realised I'd basically stopped right before the story kicks in and was hooked for the rest.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago

I think I stopped right after the white phosphorus scene. Maybe it was emotionally fucking with me is why I dropped it. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'll prolly pick it up after my family leaves town.

[-] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, that's right when the story really gets going. Remember that scene and binge from there, and I'm sure you're gonna appreciate what the game is about.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago
[-] hmmmmm@altgag.net 3 points 19 hours ago

i still can download the crew

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