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You would be wrong. People absolutely can open windows in broken cars or get out of them. I had to call a tow track couple of times and it doesn't take more than an hour. If it happens in a city you can wait in a bar or wherever. If a train breaks 10 meters from the station you will not be allowed to exit. And I don't care about repair time, I care about the time I'm sitting in a metal box without AC.
Where do you live, that trains don’t have windows or doors that can be opened, and these incidents happen so frequently? Because this is not at all my experience in Western Europe.
Regardless, it is a fact that cars break down more frequently and remediations take longer.
In Spain.
Then that’s impossible because I know for a fact that long distance trains have windows. But also, RENFE incident dataset is publicly available and updated in real time, and there is no way in hell the number of reported incidents is higher than the overall number of broken cars, not even if we were to average by number of passengers, and especially given the fact that the average car fleet age in Spain is 14 years.
You're right. You can totally open windows in long distance trains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewmQjcY3Rc
But I never said trains break more often than cars, no idea where you took that from. I was saying that if your car breaks down on a highway you will be able to open a window, get out and you will wait for less time to be picked up. I really don't think it's difficult to understand.
It's not just avlo. It's all high speed trains. People can't just open windows in trains going 350 km/h. Those are the long distance trains I'm talking about. No idea what trains you're talking about.
And opening those without permission will get you fined.
This is what train looks like:
With arrows I marked where the door are (more or less). Imagine you're sitting there with 60 people and someone opens the door at the other end of the train car. It's 35 degrees outside. As yourself: is this really going to help you? People who talk about opening the door have no idea what they are talking about. It's like rolling the window down 5 cm in a car sitting in direct sun.
Windows in trains don't open since probably 50 years ago. You can't open a window in a train going 350 km/h. People are thinking about trains that are long gone in most of Western Europe.
And it would be better for who exactly? If the railway company and its workers open the door and people get out they are responsible for them. Train tracks are not a very safe place to be. What if someone has an accident? And we're talking hundredths of people. Once the train is fixed and it's time to you, how will you make sure everyone is back? Are you going to count them? Who will do that? Railways don't want this responsibility so for them it actually is better if people break the windows. They will let people out when the risk of someone dying from heat stroke is greater than someone injuring themselves on the tracks, not when it's really fucking unpleasant inside.
It's crazy how many people how no idea how trains work.
Yes, jut get out! It's the same with airplanes. Those also have doors. If it's stack on the runway for too long just open the emergency door and get out. It's exactly the same as a car!
The only argument you gave for opening train door and getting out is that trains have door. Planes also have door. So you can get out, right?
Anyway, this just shows you have never been inside a modern train. It's really hard to talk about trains with people that don't know how those work today. I know that 100 years ago you could jump out and the conductor would call you back when the train was ready to go. Prepare some sandwiches and you could even have a picnic!
Unfortunately modern trains don't work like that. If you will ever have a chance to ride one you will see.
I didn't say anything about a running train. Again, if you will ever have a chance try riding a modern train. It's really difficult to explain how it works to someone who has never seen one.
As I said, planes also have doors with manual overrides. Try opening is sometime, see how it goes.
And to be clear, I'm not saying you should try while the plane is flying. Try it on the ground. See what will happen.
Stop FUDing, trains have had emergency release systems for decades.
Using emergency release without justification will get you a fine. It sounds like you've never been on a train.
Of course it will. I doubt anyone would fine you if you were to use it in an overheated stopped train - although you would probably applaud the fine.
I know that in your fantasy scenario people open the door when it gets worm and everyone is fine and happy but in reality being stuck in a hot train is not a nice experience. Looks like it never happened to you and you don't know anyone who was in a situation like that (I know) so it's like trying to explain a rainbow to a dog.
No sweetie, those emergency brakes are reality, not fantasy.
I'd waste more time trying to figure out your trauma with trains (maybe involves a bathroom experience?) but quite frankly i don't give a shit.
Adios
Oh! Emergency brakes. Yes, those really do help people stuck in broken trains 😂