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[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Tell that to the people of Ukraine...

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

People of Ukraine know better than most that killing is bad and war is bad

[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Except your forgetting the final part of the quote. But please, feel free to tell the members of Ukraine's military " they're evil" 🙄

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

That's actually now what the final quote is. The military is an evil institution. The members are not necessarily. Like, in Ukraine case, people are defending their country from invading genocidal force. That's not evil, quite noble even. The concept of military however is.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Steelman argument: he's speaking about militaries in general, not suggesting that one country disarms first.

If hypothetically Ukraine and Russia both disarmed at the same time, that would be wonderful.

[-] RudeDuner@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

We don't live in hypothetical world.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

We don't??? Shit! Now we can't talk about abstract concepts without getting dragged into irrelevant details.

[-] bier@feddit.nl 3 points 10 hours ago

Have you seen what happens to animal species that evolve on some island and one day an non native exotic animal is introduced? In a lot of cases that animal goes extinct. Even if we would all magically agree to never attack other counties and all dissolve our army's, only 1 country has to break the packt and we all have a real chance to be invaded. If we are doing imaginary systems, I would suggest a system where we all agree to respect current borders and never invade and all also agree to fight any country that breaks the rule. Sort of a more global and more elaborate NATO.

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