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Ubisoft Co-Founder Claude Guillemot Dies In Plane Crash (kotaku.com)
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[–] 14 points 2 months ago (45 children)

maybe you should actually look into the kind of human this person was

the world is a better place without him

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  • [+] -6 points 2 months ago (43 children)

    maybe you should actually look into the kind of human this person was

    the world is a better place without him

    This is the kind of disgusting behavior that perpetuates people treating each other so horribly.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (28 children)

    Dude was a piece of shit. Why are you so eager to defend him?

    It's okay to be happy awful people are dead.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Or you can just accept it as a net gain for humanity and move on.

    No need to be either happy or sad.

    Let's keep our dignity and behave nice, but also let's not pretend this is a tragedy, because it isn't.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    it’s 2026 the rich no longer get to expect dignity from the masses

    the ‘high road’ is how we got in this mess to begin with

    they should be thankful it’s not worse given how bad off we are now

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    Taking a steaming dump on their graves is keeping our dignity.

    This man didn't give a tin shit about me, you, or anyone else while he lived. Why do we owe him decorum and consideration just because he got himself killed?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Awful as in he was responsible for day one DLC and microtransactions or awful as in he raped and murdered children?

    There's a spectrum and I'm not sure which end of it he's on based on your comments.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    I don't play Ubisoft games. I don't have a horse in that race.

    He's awful because he was one of the money-addicted ownership class that collectively are ruining our world to fuel their addictions. Everyone in that class is a piece of shit and I don't find much value in trying to determine the particular vintage of shit we're dealing with. There are no "good guys" here.

    I won't wish death or harm on any of them, but I'll certainly not shed a tear if karma gets them.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    You need therapy.

    I think you and I would agree that billionaires aren't people, and I long for the day in which we dismember them and feed them to the pigs, but this guy wasn't a billionaire. He was a successful video game developer who co-founded an awful company.

    I'm not saying he was a saint, I don't mourn his passing, but I'm also not celebrating his death as his crimes pale in comparison to the ruling class.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

    He was a member of the ruling class. What the hell are you talking about? He was a board member and co-founder of a corporation with a valuation in the billions of dollars. Yeah, sure, he wasn't a billionaire but they aren't the only problem. He certainly had a lot less in common with poors like you and me, especially since the corporation he was part of wasn't exactly championing labor rights.

    And yeah I'm sure I do need therapy. But guess what's one of many things I can't afford thanks to rich assholes like this guy?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    We're talking about a fucking video game company.

    Touch grass.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    A video game company with a valuation in the billions of dollars, yes. Of which this guy was a co-founder and board member, meaning he was doing quite well for himself.

    Does it not count because "it's just video games lmao"? Would it be better if it was a music label or film studio?

    Maybe instead of touching grass, you should pay more attention to the class war his type are waging against ours.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (5 children)

    So what's the cutoff for you then? If a person has more than $10 million does their life no longer matter? $5 million? What exact net-worth cutoff indicates they're a cretin who is hellbent on enslaving the working class?

    We live in a capitalist society. Even here in Canada where I have access to more socialized services, it's still a capitalist society. People are going to make money - sometimes it's borne of privilege, other times hard work, and sometimes the amount is egregious, but in my eyes the hard cutoff is whether or not they are a billionaire and/or use that money to influence policy.

    Being wealthy at the age of 70 after spending literal decades growing one of the largest video game companies is not a crime and does not by default make this guy an awful person - AND - the amount paid to execs in many cases is disproportionate and would be better spent uplifting those who do the actual work.

    I can believe both of those things simultaneously while not punching down at a dead guy who was not a billionaire. Why can't you?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not punching down. I'm punching up. This dude didn't give a rat's ass about the people who made him wealthy while he was alive, so why is he owed consideration by those same people just because he's dead?

    Why does growing a company matter, if it's done by stealing the wages of the people that are producing the growth?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And where were you to punch up when he was alive? Ah right, on the internet being a keyboard warrior.

    You're making an awful lot of claims about somebody you don't have any actual information on or had even heard of before they died based on what, perceived net worth? General dislike of large companies? Or maybe you're projecting.

    I'm not here to mourn this guy or defend him, if you remember how this conversation started I was looking for a reason to piss on his grave right beside you, but I can't find one. Dude was nearly 70, had nothing to do with the day-to-day at Ubi for who knows how long, living his life until he wasn't. No scandal, no donating to MAGA, no Epstein association, no union-busting. Just a higher than average net worth though I don't think he was in the 1%.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago*

    so he’s bad but not evil incarnate so we should not be happy he’s dead?

    what kinda snivel is this?

    dude was a net negative in the world, go spend your effort caring on someone actually good

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What's wrong with people making money because other people buy their video games? Are they hurting someone?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    It's a matter of scale, and what they do with the money. Wealth hoarding has reached the point where it's a cause of inflation. The top 1% (and even moreso, the 1% of that 1%) have hoarded ao much wealth, and do nothing but essentially sit on that wealth, that it makes life more expensive for all of us in the working class.

    Strictly speaking, yes they absolutely are hurting someone. Wage theft is a significant issue we face today.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I never defended him. Just because I am sending his family my condolences doesn't mean I agree with what he did or believed, it only means that I am trying to be a good human.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    rich greedy people are going to treat you the same regardless

    you are simping for a man that wouldn’t pee on you to put you out if you were on fire

    how naive must you to be to think bring nice to them will change their behavior

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I am fully aware that trying to be a good human results in bad humans taking advantage of me often. I am not blind to it. But being a good human means that is going to happen for as long as bad humans keep being bad humans.

    I will not stoop to being a bad human just because bad humans treat me badly. I want to be a good human, and that means being a good human even to the bad humans. I don't agree with what they do or think or believe, nor do I think that me being a good human will force anyone to change. Though some bad humans might change and become good humans, I don't have to become a bad human just because you don't see things the same way I do. You can live as you want and I will live as I want. And I want to be a good human, so I will try to live that way as best as I can.

    As a side note, I am appreciative that hopefully nobody will piss on me, regardless of if I am on fire or not. I would much rather put the fire out myself jumping into nearby water, rolling on the floor, removing burning garments, etc. I really would like to avoid being pissed on, thank you. You may be into that, but I am not.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago*

    being happy that legitimately bad people are dead by their own actions doesn't make one bad themselves

    claiming some supposed moral high ground by continuously turning the other cheek is a mood for sure

    you want to be taken advantage of fine, you do you but i’m annoyed i have to deal with the consequences of people like you burying your head in the ground, because our society is surely crumbling while people like that rich fuck take advantage of us all and people like you do less than nothing

    i’m just going to ignore the nonsense in the last paragraph because i can’t tell if this is genuine autism or not

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    I am fully aware that trying to be a good human results in bad humans taking advantage of me often. I am not blind to it. But being a good human means that is going to happen for as long as bad humans keep being bad humans.

    Being good to bad people does nkt make you better. It makes you be easier to be used.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    You can see how polarized this opinion is. Not speaking ill of the dead is a religious power thing. The idea that all deaths deserve a quiet respect is pushed by a class of elderly people in positions of power.

    You can bet that when Donald Trump dies there will be parties. Some humans have no redeeming qualities and that needs to be acknowledged more. Peter Thiel, Elon Musk need to know NOW how people will regard them after death as the cancers of society they were.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    you're right.

    look at all the good stuff Adolph Hitler gave the world!

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