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TFW you lose a war but they don't just let you pack up and leave
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this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2026
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In this case they literally could just pack up and leave the area. The US has limited targets that Iran has the capability to hit, and Iran has no real capability to contest the open ocean.
It's not like they share a land border.
If that happened, Iran would have full control over Hormuz, meaning they'd get to extract tolls decide who gets to pass and who doesn't. Concessions would just happen by default instead of being agreed upon.
The Strait passes through Iran's territorial waters, by international maritime law.
This gives Iran (and Oman) the right to enforce their laws in the Strait, and close it if that is necessary for their national security.
The US haven't ratified the treaty governing those rules, because they want to be the sole arbiters of what's "international waters".
Yes. The US could leave and let Iran do what ever it likes in the area. But Iran isn't likely to do anything to the US.
Except raise oil prices for US consumers and/or destroy the petrodollar.
Yeah shit happens when you lose a war. Deal with it.
That happens even without wars.
They already were doing a lot to the US by keeping the strait closed. It seems like a lot of you are completely misinformed about what went down here. The US could not just pack up and leave, Trump wanted to do that several times throughout this process, but even he found out that that was not possible.
Sure it could. I think you're the one who's completely misinformed.
The USA can leave the strait at any time. It's not theirs.
Can the untrained dog choose not to grab the untended chicken breast off the counter?
Wasn't the strait open before this whole shitshow? America can live with its fuckup.
Iran has always had full control over Hormuz, whether the USA likes it or not. They had full control before the USA attacked, they have full control now, and they will have full control after the USA leaves.
Something like 20% of the worlds fertilizer and oil goes through there when it's open. In the USA, crop yields will be down 5-10% for corn and i bet lots of farmers can't afford the increased prices. Some will go bankrupt, and I bet a lot vote Republican.
Oil impacts the cost of everything, diesel and petroleum for transport of goods,driving to work and heating/cooking . Petroleum products also include plastics and rubber.
Trump and Bibi fucked the global economy for a year, including the US
I'd like to see a class action lawsuit against the United States government for needlessly raising the cost of living for a major part of the world.
In which court?
And who's going to drag the US government in front of it?
A demand like yours (aimed by Austria at Serbia) is what started WW1.