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TFW you lose a war but they don't just let you pack up and leave (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children)

In this case they literally could just pack up and leave the area. The US has limited targets that Iran has the capability to hit, and Iran has no real capability to contest the open ocean.

It's not like they share a land border.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    In this case they literally could just pack up and leave the area.

    If that happened, Iran would have full control over Hormuz, meaning they'd get to extract tolls decide who gets to pass and who doesn't. Concessions would just happen by default instead of being agreed upon.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    The Strait passes through Iran's territorial waters, by international maritime law.
    This gives Iran (and Oman) the right to enforce their laws in the Strait, and close it if that is necessary for their national security.
    The US haven't ratified the treaty governing those rules, because they want to be the sole arbiters of what's "international waters".

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yes. The US could leave and let Iran do what ever it likes in the area. But Iran isn't likely to do anything to the US.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    They already were doing a lot to the US by keeping the strait closed. It seems like a lot of you are completely misinformed about what went down here. The US could not just pack up and leave, Trump wanted to do that several times throughout this process, but even he found out that that was not possible.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Iran has always had full control over Hormuz, whether the USA likes it or not. They had full control before the USA attacked, they have full control now, and they will have full control after the USA leaves.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Something like 20% of the worlds fertilizer and oil goes through there when it's open. In the USA, crop yields will be down 5-10% for corn and i bet lots of farmers can't afford the increased prices. Some will go bankrupt, and I bet a lot vote Republican.

    Oil impacts the cost of everything, diesel and petroleum for transport of goods,driving to work and heating/cooking . Petroleum products also include plastics and rubber.

    Trump and Bibi fucked the global economy for a year, including the US

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'd like to see a class action lawsuit against the United States government for needlessly raising the cost of living for a major part of the world.

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