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[+] -21 points 3 months ago (43 children)

I don't think people who really like to draw, or code repetitive tasks etc. are using AI for that. Well, maybe at work where they don't have an option.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (26 children)

    people who don't care to do those things are using ai for them, leaving the people who do care, and usually spent a large part of their life learning how to do those things well, with nothing to do.

    incidentally, learning how to do something properly makes it easier to see how bad ai is at that thing.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You aren't using the dockworker's services either. Work changes in time. There are still people who sew by hand too, but you can also buy affordable clothes if you are poor.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    i do though. i order packages and the dockworkers take them off of the ship and load them onto local transport. i take a ferry and the dockworkers make sure the ship is securely tied off before i dinembark.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    In the time before containerization a lot of people used to be dock workers. Today virtually noone is a dockworker anymore. That's what I was referring to.

    That's a large part of how the world became as connected as it is today.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Remember, if you copy and paste from stack, you're a bad developer.

    Too many developers think they code better than they do.

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  • [+] -15 points 3 months ago (18 children)

    How many are actually going to do repetitive, menial coding work so that some people who enjoy that for whatever reason would have "something to do"?

    Sounds like a big ask. Besides, if you enjoy coding that, I don't think anyone is preventing you from doing that. Unless it is work, as said. Then you have to do whatever they tell you to. In that case there's no decision to use or not to use it either way.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    i was more thinking about art or writing, but if you're doing repetitive menial coding work then there have been tools to replace that for like 50 years.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    Yeah this is just another tool for that

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    that sets fire to a tree for every sentence, yes.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    I don't think those using it care tbh

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    nope, that's pretty obvious. it's easier to visualise with local models that make the apartment heat up a few degrees.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Is it really that intensive with coding? For image/video generation I've heard it's pretty bad but coding seems like a less intensive task. But so is gaming tbh, that heats up my apartment plenty

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    it's the same thing, image generation just takes longer. per output.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    That sounds like image generation is more taxing?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    in the same way that playing minecraft for two hours is "more taxing" than playing for one, sure

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Two games was actually the example I had in mind, with them both demanding resources but the other being much more taxing on the system, yeah

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    well that's not what's going on. there's a reason i explained it the way i did.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It uses less system resources vs you use it for less time, the result is the same? I don't see the difference myself

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    both scenarios use the same amount of resources but one uses them for longer. that's not "more taxing".

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    You are saying it uses the same amount of computing power, but the time is different? I guess I was more concerned about resource use. If you drive your car 100 or 200 km, it might use the same amount of fuel per km but you end up using more fuel on the longer drive

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    yes. it's not more resource intensive, it's just doing more iterations.

    and from my measurements, spending 15-30 seconds on max power draw is not a lot compared to gaming for an hour. datacenters use less power per iteration than my gpu, but they run all the time.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    I like the fact that society depends on artists to have art. Artists like making art and society wants art. There's a cosmic balance in that. The world is designed in a way that gives people good jobs. The only problem is the fact that we use money and the artists need to be paid. If artists were just given enough food and housing by some sort of gift economy, it would all work out great.

    I am unhappy that capitalists can now get art without relying on artists.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    The world is designed in a way that gives people good jobs.

    I think most doing grueling labour would disagree with that.

    If you want art from artists you can still get that. You say society wants art so that should be all fine, as long as society isn't fine with AI slop art.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You know what AI isn't doing? Grueling labor.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    It is not people who likes to draw who are the customers, the customers are the people who need someone to draw for them. I mean this is literally happening on a massive scale right now, with artists being out of work because all those smaller jobs as illustrators which was their bread and butter gets done (badly) by AI instead.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    But if you like to draw (or eat ice cream) you are free to do that still though. The situation in the comic is about someone who likes to do that thing, rather than someone wanting to get paid for doing it to others

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    As someone who likes to eat ice cream, I can't afford to eat ice cream anymore. Art supplies aren't free, and sure, I could just buy the cheapest pen and paper, but then that's just drinking lukewarm sweetened milk.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Was the hobby cheaper before or wdym?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The only true use I found for AI while programming is boilerplate, aka code that is really simple with only one way to do it.

    I don't really have an equivalent for 2d art, but in 3D art that would be basic shapes like spheres, cubes, pyramids

    So actually, the analogy would be a robot that unwrap the ice-cream's packaging for you.

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