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Anon is incompatible (thelemmy.club)
submitted 4 months ago by [M] to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 113 points 4 months ago (52 children)

Hey remember that tried and true universal plug-in that literally works on everything and everybody loves? Lets not have that anymore.

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  • [–] 116 points 4 months ago (49 children)

    I know Apple is terrible with usability, but I also think USB-C is now the one that works everywhere. All my last USB stick purchases had USB-A and C, just so that I don't have to run away in tears. I can even use them with smartphones and those never had USB-A.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    It's the new standard, but there should always be at least one USB-A. It's still incredibly common.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    USB-C is over 11 years old.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    And? Is there something newer that's a standard? If not, it's the new one.

    Also, it's only recently become the de facto standard. Yes, it's older than that, but it didn't become the standard until maybe five years ago. So much was still being made for USB-A, and some things still are. Anything older than ~5 years ago has good odds of being A.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Anything older than 5 years ago has the odds of being A, B, Mini A, Mini B, Micro A, Micro B, etc.

    C is the standard. If you need legacy support, there’s hubs and adapters. No need to perpetuate legacy ports. I’d love a serial and a parallel connector - there’s plenty of modern industrial gear still using them. But we do that with C -> Serial adapters.

    A device has a limited number of ports. Would one rather two USB-C, or one A and one C?

    That A port will have diminishing value if one intends to use the device for 5 to 10 years and increases the probability someone discards the device early given the limited number of modern, high value ports.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I don't have a single peripheral that uses USB-C. I have a lot of USB-A and some micro-USB.

    My phone is USB-C and that's about it. Given that my 2 year old PC case has 8 USB-A connectors and 1 USB-C connector, I'd also wager keyboards and mice won't stop being USB-A anytime soon. There's just no reason for them to be anything else.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I’d also wager keyboards and mice won’t stop being USB-A anytime soon. There’s just no reason for them to be anything else.

    Depends on whether or not the cable is fixed or removable, my mouse has a fixed cable so it uses A (lowest common denominator), meanwhile my (5 year old) keyboard has a removable cable so has a C port only.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    Furthermore I shouldn't have to get rid of an old A device that still works just because they remove the ports. I don't care how old it is let me use my external CD drive with the USB-A to Mini-USB (yes mini lmao.) Wish I still had an attached optical disk drive tbh.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    People do not replace accessories and specialized external hardware nearly as often as companies think they do.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    my home computer has no USB-C and I can't afford to upgrade because gestures broadly.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can buy a dongle or hub very cheaply.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    I have a USB-C hub with USB-A ports that plugs into my work PC. I had a hard time trying to find the opposite, though I haven't looked in ages; it honestly has come up exactly once in the last few years when I needed to borrow my wife's sd card reader (or dig my old laptop out of the closet and play the updates game).

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago*

    Both USB-C and USB-A have their pros and cons.

    • USB-C has a lot more bandwidth and power draw.

    • USB-A is sturdier and cheaper.

    For things like a mouse or keyboard, having more bandwidth or power draw are useless, but being cheaper and sturdier are not.

    One can not replace the other entirely. Apple just wants to milk everyone by forcing them to buy all their peripherals again.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Where did we go wrong? We might never know ... but it for sure isn't because of cult-like loyalty to a single company notorious for doing this. It's a mystery

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