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[-] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

lol Zelensky could literally do a Hitler salute and call himself a fascist and yall would be like “well EVERYONE REMEMBER Russia is the aggressor!!” “We cannot have a conversation about this conflict without first and very very often mentioning Russia is the evil aggressor against wholesome epic little Ukraine and pointing out their Nazi insignia is “targeted” and “associating them with Nazis”

Motherfucker, THEY are associating THEMSELVES with Nazis. This article is about Z naming a unit after fascists. There are pictures of him in front of literal swastikas (adjacent symbols meaning the same thing). How in the slightest is that framing Ukraine in any way they aren’t framing themselves?

Also I responded before I read your whole comment. The last paragraph is just slop dude. I think this person should be banned from the instance or however it works, unless you’re willing to prove that you’re willing to learn and not just bark like a dog

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

So I see a lot of personal attack here and absolutely no answers to my questions. I'm a middle aged dude in Kansas, I'm not pretending to know shit about global politics and I'm well aware my few sources of media are probably equally corrupted by propaganda.

As it stands, the information I have to work with is that Russia attacked Ukraine and now it's a war. I'm a simple man, when one guy punches another the aggressor is the first one that threw the punch. Nations is just bigger scale not denser complexity. Russia threw the first punch, Russia started the fight. I'm not against new information and will take any peer review proof you have to the contrary. Again, I'm genuinely asking because I want to know.

Now for Nazis. I hate Nazis. I think being a Nazi should disqualify you from having civil rights and proof that you're a Nazi should be punished with death. So far beyond the line of tolerance am I that I do not even need a level of cognitive dissonance to simultaneously hold this view and the view that anyone can overcome their evils. I do not believe anyone who is a Nazi deserves a chance to redeem themself. Now you come here and say Zelinski named a battalion after Nazis and I yout to understand that this is a thing I have to deal with every day. The leader of my country is also a Nazi, the richest man on the planet is also a Nazi, as it turns out no one but me seems to care so I guess I'm one guy that hates Nazis in a panet of fucking Nazis. So I ask in ernest, with no malice or dismissal, why it should matter that one guy is a Nazi if being a nazi is the standard? I do not condone it, but if my Nazi president likes Russia and "good guy Ukraine" is Nazis, then at this point I'm sure Russia is Nazis too.

And finally, my stance at the end. While I understand it comes across at dismissive and sarcastic, but again it is delivered in complete sincerity. I am the product of a lifetime of disillusion, taught about my inalienable right to religion by the teacher that told me I belong in hell for using it. I watched a society that begged for a tyrannical government to overthrow became the loyal army of the fascist regime and now bite at the leash to hunt people like me for sport. I made piece with being molested as a child only to learn that actually that's what we want in this country and my true failing was not going on to molest in turn. There is not a day I wake where I am spared the realization that the evils I believed were the flaws in the machine were actually the intended outcome all along.

So I know that no one tries this hard in a tiny little niche forum site on the ass end of the corporate internet for free. Wither it means something to you personally or you're being paid to do it. If it's the prior then say it with your whole chest. Give me more than a stale meme, show me a person that cares about a fucking problem because I'm so fucking tired of being the only one. If it's the later, then just fucking say so. My every day is so crammed full of propaganda. Every ideal I've ever held was a corporate product to offload the blame on the common folk. Every year of my education was a regurgitation of lies about the world. Hero I've had has been a monster wearing the face of a saint. So if your being paid to make these half assed arguments then tell me what the orders are how well they pay because I'm so fucking done that a foreign actor could buy my loyalty with a modest retirement account. I will sell out for anyone that will pay for the dental care I need.

So what is it? What has you so motivated as to come here day after day and post dated memes about politics when you could literally be doing anything else? I actually want to know.

this post was submitted on 29 May 2026
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