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The bloody Trots are bloody everywhere! (thelemmy.club)
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I talked to them and they were pretty nice. Tried to sell me a newspaper though! But I expected them to do that.

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[–] 6 points 3 months ago (12 children)

What's a trot?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    "Even though at one time Trotskyism represented an erroneous position, but a position in the field of political ideas, Trotskyism became during the following years a vulgar instrument of imperialism and reaction. This is the way these gentlemen think. For example, in relation to South Vietnam, where a broad revolutionary front has united the overwhelming majority of the people and various sectors of the population, has united them closely around the liberation movement in the struggle against imperialism. For the Trotskyists that is absurd; that is counterrevolutionary. Yet these gentlemen who serve imperialism have the gall to do such an unusual thing in the face of the facts and realities of history and against the revolutionary movement and to express themselves in this manner. "

    -Fidel Castro, 1966

    Trotskyists support Lenin but opposed the USSR. They also deny the existence of AES states. They oppose China, Vietnam, etc. They also oppose labor unions. They're known for selling newspapers.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Thank you for the explanation. I know very little of trotskyists mostly because it doesn't make sense to me.

    Also why do they sell newspapers?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago

    why do they sell newspapers?

    It's like an unwritten rule of Trotskyism. Every Trot org sells newspapers. I swear half those parties only exist to sell a newspaper. I think they only do it because it's the only thing the Bolsheviks did that Trots are any good at. They say they're less dogmatic than MLs and that a leftist group should never do anything they don't understand their own reasons for just because Lenin told us to do it, but I think Trots only put out newspapers because Lenin said a communist party needs a party newspaper.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Nothing they said is serious or accurate. Maybe the newspaper thing, but the Bolsheviks sold newspapers too. No revolution has ever succeeded without counter - propaganda. Stalinists massacred Trotskyists in every instance mentioned and seized the editorial and propaganda apparatus developed by the trots, turning it into a mouthpiece of grasping bureaucrats.

    Sectarian MLs hate trotskyists so that they dont have to feel bad about the unjust mass murder of us in every instance mentioned. Its total projection.

    Edit: not all MLs are sectarians, but the ones who got their views from a podcast on Losurdo and uncritically parrot apologism are shameless and dangerous to our movements

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    They dont deny the existence of AES states, they call them deformed worker states, they also participate in labor unions (in argentina for example)

    I get not liking a tendency but you should dislike them over things the say and do

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    Trotskyists support Lenin but opposed the USSR. They also deny the existence of AES states. They oppose China, Vietnam, etc. They also oppose labor unions.

    Sectarian lies. The reason sectarian MLs hate and lie about Trotskyism is because if they didn't they would have to confront the fact that every desperate grasp for power by the moderate bureaucracy they refer to as "Marxism" involved the massacre of other communists.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    newspaper salespeople

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 months ago*

    Especially when they table out on streets. Then they really look like the stereotypical late 19th and early 20th century newspaper saleskids shouting out headlines to try to get people to buy a newspaper.

    Or they end up looking like the commie version of a street preacher, and making all communists look as irrational as the street corner doomsday preachers.

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