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[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 94 points 5 days ago

Oh, and furthermore: jacking up a la Broly is actually a terrible idea for swimming specifically, because the extra bulging muscle is actually inefficient for hydrodynamic drag.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago

But aren't we talking about so little time that a little boost of energy could help you win?

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 38 points 5 days ago

Yes, generally, but at a certain point, the amount of energy gained from sheer muscle is unfortunately negated by the amount of drag from the muscle's additional volume. That's why most swimmers are relatively lean, with good core muscles.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

I'm talking more of a speed type substance, not muscle gain.

[-] 0x0@infosec.pub 23 points 5 days ago

Its ok to just write meth you know

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 7 points 5 days ago

I'm not sure if they allow actually illegal substances in the Enhanced Games, though

[-] chocrates@piefed.world 4 points 5 days ago

Steroids are illegal in America, I'm sure meth is legal somewhere

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[-] chocrates@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago

I was assuming otc. I have a meth prescription

[-] suxen_tsihcrana@anarchist.nexus 1 points 4 days ago

You have a prescription for desoxyn? That's incredibly rare

[-] chocrates@piefed.world 2 points 4 days ago

Nah, I call it meth but it's just Vyvanse and Adderall. An amphetamine but not methamphetamine

[-] OilyArena@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago
[-] chocrates@piefed.world 1 points 4 days ago

Nope not meth at all

[-] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 9 points 5 days ago

Yeah, an energy boosting substance should be more apt for quick sprints. Again, as I mentioned above, most of the "enhanced" athletes are coming back from retirement - giving 120% from a degraded muscle can (and here, did) give less of a payback than giving 100% from a muscle in its prime.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah, an energy boosting substance should be more apt for quick sprints.

The opposite I think, meth doesn't magically make you stronger or faster (it just feels like it does) but it keeps you going for longer.

[-] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 4 days ago

but it keeps you going for longer.

Specifically, mentally going. The majority of olympic level athletes are not 'flagging' due to not being able to keep their mental focus while pushing through pain/fatigue, it's due to actual physiological reasons as your energy stores deplete and muscles suffer damage.

[-] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

I read an article a little while ago about one of the swimmers who was training for these games and it talked about exactly this, how the changes to his body shape and composition were bigger drawbacks than the added strength from the enhancements.

If this event ends up going for a while and has enough interest I would expect people to figure out an optimal way to dope to find the balance.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Steroids that make you bigger are the main public understanding of PEDs, but there are plenty of other types that increase stamina or speed recovery from individual races. 10% more blood flow would be huge for a long swimming event than more muscle mass.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

The advancements will be to the suit. It will become more like speed submarining than swimming.

[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 11 points 4 days ago

Can confirm, gym / lifting lifestyle makes you in to a shape better suited as a boat anchor than a torpedo. Also probably about as buoyant.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago

Yeah.... I think probably the only real ped that would be useful would be something like blood doping in between races for better recovery?

[-] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's just them taking the wrong performance enhancing drugs. I would imagine that something that would lead to huge swelling of the hands and feet might be good for increasing how much water they can push against.

[-] optimisticturtle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

something that would lead to huge swelling of the hands and feet might be good for increasing how much water they can push against.

HGH does that.

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