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I'm really enjoying no down votes on Beehaw (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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When I first found out it was an interesting concept that I was pretty neutral on but the more I engage/lurk with the community the more I enjoy it.

I generally don't post/comment much on Reddit because I tend to be extremely sincere and that's not always well received. Usually I don't get much hate, but what I do get is a lot of non-interaction mixed with downvotes. And it's just really discouraging when I'm just trying to share my thoughts.

But having no downvotes here is so nice because I'm not afraid that I'm going to get silenced into oblivion. Either people will actually engage with me (and maybe disagree, but in a meaningful way), or they'll move on and not randomly share their disdain via downvoting.

It's such a small change but makes a big difference. I bet a lot of people feel the same as me - it's more comfortable to engage here.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Did we already forgot about YouTube that literally mask shitty videos because of the no downvote counter? Or Facebook that can spread fake news and shit because of it? Downvotes can be bad but imo only upvotes can be worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit also spreads fake news and shit, though. The communities you participate in determine whether you see it, to a degree, but nonetheless. Like, when Bernie was running for Pres, the Bernie Sanders subreddit had everything that looked good for his chances upvoted, and everything that looked critical of his opponents (including the same accusations of Biden being a pedo that the far right likes to make) upvoted, and comments or posts that were like "... Wait a minute this doesn't seem to be true" or "this over here isn't a good sign" or "Bernie isn't popular with these Black voters for xyz reasons" or whatever would get downvoted to the point people didn't see it. Voila, echo chamber. I say this as someone that voted for Bernie.

That said, I do wonder if a system that eschewed votes altogether might be better. Like old forums.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Downvotes can be bad but imo only upvotes can be worse.

This is true too. I can only hope disinformation and harmful content can be reported to moderators that will take action to remove it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If people are spreading conspiracy theories or harmful content, we do remove it of course. I think the example of Facebook is exactly where moderation is important. Not where downvotes are important.

Because to put it simply, conspiracy theories and harmful content usually get posted in echo chambers where people will agree anyways so a downvote does nothing to solve the problem imo.