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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 125 points 1 week ago

This is genius.

Cuba's population is about 10.9 million. That means, if my math is right, this shipment has about 2.75 lbs of rice per Cuban citizen. That's a LOT of rice- about 10-12 servings per person. And there's another 3 similar shipments coming.

This is not some useless token, this is a 'feed the country for a week or two' type gift.

You can bet your sweet ass that neither the people nor the government of Cuba are likely to forget this anytime soon. The 'gentle giant' USA is choking them, China feeds them. It's a powerful message.

Of course it's China so there's always a price eventually. I suspect Beijing's goal here is additional influence within Cuba, and I don't see any reason why Cuba would have any objection. A few boatloads of rice gets you a LOT of good will in a starving country.

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

China’s price for foreign aid is almost always lower than Western capitalists’. It’s why their belts and roads initiative and BRICS have been so insanely successful.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

More usefully- their price will likely be something Cuba is happy to do. IE, access to sell Chinese goods in Cuba? Hell yes bring them in bring our people up to modern standards. Set up a base somewhere? Of course Cuba is neutral between US and China, we lease space to US we can lease space to China too. China becomes Cuba's primary trade partner? Hell yes sign us up US sure isn't trading with us...

And let's not forget China is already selling Cuba a ton of solar power tech. For a nation like Cuba that's a godsend, because it reduces their reliance on foreign oil.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

access to sell Chinese goods in Cuba?

Not just. ~~Persuade Nicaragua again to build a new shipping canal wider than Panama.~~ Ortega wants China to fund his megaproject.

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

There’s always a price, but that’s true whether the donation comes from China, the US, or most other world powers.

My family is from the Caribbean. They seem to feel that it’s better to work with China or India on infrastructure, as they help with building and get paid back via ownership or land leases. Working with the US is difficult, as it’s hard for a nation with little access to USD to be able pay back a loan - they basically get blamed for being poor despite the US having performed the ultimate grift in making their dollar the global currency.

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Working with the US has made even more difficult by the fact that the US seems determined to keep them under embargo, even though it's seriously questionable whether the embargo serves any useful purpose anymore. So even if they wanted to work with the US it would probably involve a bunch of useless ass kissing and we probably make the oil refineries back.

Bottom line it's an awful lot of harm for not very much. Should have been ended decades ago

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Indeed and right in the backyard of the USA. The Batista supporters in the US can go f-themselves for screwing over their own people.

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Gentle giant? The United States is a capitalist enemy.

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 week ago

That's sarcasm.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Of course it’s China so there’s always a price eventually. I suspect Beijing’s goal here is additional influence within Cuba, and I don’t see any reason why Cuba would have any objection. A few boatloads of rice gets you a LOT of good will in a starving country.

With a collossal oppressive empire like the US at their doorstep demanding full submission, the Cubans are likely very happy to have any alternative. At least Chinese agreements usually benefit both sides instead of "surrender your country or we will kidnap your president".

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