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Cuba receives 15,000-tonne shipment of rice donated by China
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A bad country doing a good thing doesn't make them good.
China has lifted almost a billion people out of the extreme poverty left by colonial exploitation and drug wars.
Lead the way on actual green transition globally and is basically the only large nation meaningfully trying to avert the catastrophe that will render a huge swath of the planet uninhabitable in a few generations displacing billions of people.
Stood up to US and EU exploitative colonial hegemony in favour of international law repeatedly. China continually advocates for actually following the RBO in the face of rapacious USA warmaking.
China has not engaged in an offensive war since the revoltion.
Distributed vaccinations cheaply to nations the west would not sell to during the last pandemic which killed fucking millions of people.
Has set up alternative funding programs for countries to develop that are far less exploitative than IMF loans.
Is all of this self interested to some degree? If course it is. Is it self interested to the detriment of the world? I think you would struggle to make that case when held up next to other superpowers.
What the fuck is your threshold for a good nation? Has anyone in the 21st century met it?
Not engaging in genocide is my bare minimum.
They don't... If you mean Uighurs the UN did not recognise the arrests as a genocide, neither did the ICJ or ICC. The camps are closed and the Uighurs still exist, you can go visit the cities where they are an ethnic majority.
Are you referring to the US?
No, that would be a bad country doing a shit thing (or 20), doesn't make them good.
The last few years have really soured me on the idea of nations in general.
I live in hope the NZ is a net positive on the world - but with the current right of centre coalition we have in power I'm losing that hope, especially at a local NZ level.
It is election year....vote like it matters.
I've been horrified by what the Kiwi government has been doing
I was disgusted when they were voted in, but sadly, for some reason Aotearoa seems to have become more acutely stupid
Meanwhile, Australia is actually progressing a little bit
If you mean progressing towards a fascist decline sure. We've had literal Nazis march in the street alongside politicians who gave their support, an extremely brutal crackdown on the right to protest, right wing parties surging, continued undermining of healthcare and education in favour of the bourgeois, expansion of fossil fuel projects, hardcore backing of ultraright wing militarism in the usa and Japan.
Cunt's fucked mate.
Albo is definitely better than his predecessors
And yet the decline continues! One great man does not determine the course of a nation and albo is not even that.
The US doesn't really do many good things lately.
No, China. The US stopped doing good things.
Literally doing all your comfy life related things
Doing endless r and d
Advancing in renewables
Trying to build a proper community (some might disagree here) The list goes on
You wont find a perfect country but what China doing to the world and its people is far from "bad".
Except for the whole genociding Muslims thing.
there is no genocide of muslims in xinjiang. Unjust religious prosecution at a small scale? yes, genocide? hell no.
Surveillance and exceptional human rights abuses but overall nothing more than what the average Chinese person is subject to. Apart from those wierd stories about Chinese uncles sleeping in their beds, put out by the BBC.
We're literally exterminating Arabs, wiping out entire bloodlines, but somehow we give a sht about Muslims in one corner of China? A bit suspect no?
We can care about both
Alright man. But we can see and directly influence one. And we can't vote for change in China, other than voting for more war, which produces more of the first problem...
Also you seem to be skipping past the scandalous accusation I quoted from the BBC. Do you think it's true?
except there is no genocide.
The US doing bad things doesn't absolve China of doing bad things. It's not a zero sum game
Don't put words in my mouth you lemming.
Aren't you intellectually curious? Don't you see the hypocrisy? Also you seem to have missed the part where I mention an often overlooked accusation on how China conducts in-person surveillance.
Your assertion is that because the US is doing genocide, reports of China doing genocide are suspicious.
That's flawed logic, especially since the first reports of it were from 2014. Not to mention that the US isn't the only source for them.
Does a good country that constantly does horrific things make them bad?
If a country constantly does horrific things, they aren't a good country.
Like the US, for example.