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[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Hardly an exception, here are a few examples from energy-intensive industries, which rely on 24/7 processes

Chemicals: Involves continuous chemical reactions and processing.

Steel: Requires constant operation for refining and production.

Aluminum: Needs ongoing processes for smelting and fabrication.

Cement: Operates continuously to ensure consistent quality and output.

Paper: Relies on uninterrupted processes for pulping and manufacturing.

Not to forget med and pharma, semiconductor production, and so on.

[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

That's one reason why I think the boom in cheaper, better, safer battery tech is one of the greatest innovations of the 21st century.

Yeah, the sun doesn't always shine. Yeah, you need 24/7 power for a lot of things (eg lifesaving medical equipment in hospitals). Solar isn't practical for a lot of uses unless you can effectively store the power. But battery storage centers are getting better every day.

(On a related note, e-bikes and scooters are everywhere where I live. Personal solar powered transportation at a fraction of the cost and impact of cars. As soon as batteries got small and light and cheap enough to make them practical the market exploded. It's amazing.)

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

US annual natgas use is some 9 PWh. Grid scale storage in the US cost 219 USD/kWh. 1 PWh = 10^12 kWh. So some 2000 trillion USD, if my math is right. And that's just one country, just natgas.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

Just have a baseline from something else. Hydro nuclear and use the sun when you have it.

[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I get the benefits of that, and, that sort of megastructure power generation requires massive investment in power plants and a grid to carry the power.

One of the great things about solar is you don't need megastructures or thousands of miles of cables, because you can generate power directly where it's needed - need more power, add more panels. One of the great things about batteries is they work the same way.

That's a boon for industry in rural areas with poor infrastructure, like, say, rural India. You don't need to rely on a power plant hundreds of miles away to power your factory. You don't need to trust the government to keep the power grid intact and stable. You don't need to worry the government will divert the power you need in order to power the President's brother's data center or whatever. You plop down your solar panels and battery bank and get to work.

(That's a disappointment from the article. India's building an enormous solar megastructure way out in a rural area without the power transmission infrastructure to get the power where it's needed. Smells like graft.)

[-] BrowseMan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

There was a paper about using "thermal batteries" made of piles of thermal bricks for all industry requiring high temperature (smelting, ...).

I need to find it again.

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