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Somebody posted a real Monet and said it’s AI, hilarity ensued
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Well to bring us here first: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11615067/8203119
You claim to be a Marxist materialist, but you’ve reduced human consciousness to ‘computation’ and ‘inference.’ Marx’s whole project was to show that consciousness is shaped by material social relations, not by computational processes abstracted from history, class, and labor.
You’re celebrating that Iran can now make effective Lego propaganda. But the US can now make even more effective propaganda, faster, and at scale. Democratization doesn’t favor the underdog. Who it favors is any player that can deploy the tools most strategically.
To me it seems like what we're doing here is sewing class divisions. And if I'm just a computer interface what's the point of me even existing? Do I just sit in a chair and type prompts to put memes out there? Why can't I just donate you my parts and you go generate more memes without me? Why do you even need me?
If there's enough data points out there already and nothing I will ever do will ever be truly unique then why do I exist?
Yes, being a materialist means viewing human consciousness as being a product of physical processes within the brain. I'm not sure how that's in any way at odds with consciousness being shaped by material social relations. Computational process is how you are shaped. Encoding the model of the world that you live within the structure of the neural network in your brain in is what shaping is. Why in the world would you claim that a computational processes abstracted from history, class, and labor. That does not make a lick of sense.
If that was true than the US would be doing that, but the reality is that it's Iran winning the propaganda war as even mainstream western media admits https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd8jrd1vnyo
I mean that's the beauty of having a free will and a mind. Each person can figure this question out for themselves.
I don't even know what you're trying to say here. It's frankly incoherent.
Again, it's a really weird question. Is your goal in life to be unique, why is it your goal?
I just don't want to be discarded. I don't trust this technology under Capitalism. I don't trust you or know who you are, what's your class background?
Are you a proletariat using these tools for survival or are you using this as entertainment? Can you help me and my friends find replacement jobs if we've been displaced by bosses choosing AI instead?
We don't really have anything to discuss to be honest and this will be going in circles forever because I am fundamentally opposed to your world view.
If you wan to impress me create an AI that can think for itself. That's something I would like to see. At least there's a chance it might try to liberate Palestine, humans clearly don't give enough of a shit to do that.
I don't trust this technology under capitalism either. That's why I think the workers need to develop their own version of this technology that's publicly owned, and controlled. Because the alternative is that it becomes a tool of class oppression that's owned solely by the ruling class. Marxists understand that trying to wish new technology away because it's socially disruptive is not the way forward. Building our own tools that are in the hands of the workers is the only solution.
And yes, I'm a worker and my labor is my source of income. In fact, working in software development, I'm one of the people who will be most affected by this technology in the near future.
I don't really care to impress you, and clearly you're not interested in a rational discussion. So, you're absolutely right that there really is no point continuing this.