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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago

I don't trust this technology under capitalism either. That's why I think the workers need to develop their own version of this technology that's publicly owned, and controlled. Because the alternative is that it becomes a tool of class oppression that's owned solely by the ruling class. Marxists understand that trying to wish new technology away because it's socially disruptive is not the way forward. Building our own tools that are in the hands of the workers is the only solution.

And yes, I'm a worker and my labor is my source of income. In fact, working in software development, I'm one of the people who will be most affected by this technology in the near future.

I don't really care to impress you, and clearly you're not interested in a rational discussion. So, you're absolutely right that there really is no point continuing this.

[-] CanaryFeigned@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago

You cannot build working class power by alienating the very workers you claim to stand with.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You absolutely can build class power by educating people and having principled views. Bolsheviks famously did not try to build any big tent coalitions, they focused on having correct ideas. I would really suggest that you try doing some self criticism to work through your reactionary ideas and come up with a coherent position on the subject. I can suggest starting here https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Essay:Intellectual_property_in_the_times_of_AI

[-] CanaryFeigned@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago

You cite the Bolsheviks. Let us be clear about what they actually did.

They did not tell hungry workers to "self criticize" and read a pamphlet. They gave them land, peace, and bread. They addressed immediate material needs while building long term strategy. They organized across trades, industries, and regions. They did not alienate potential allies by calling their ideas reactionary and handing them a reading list.

You have offered me nothing concrete. No short term protection. No cooperative model. No skill sharing. No answer to "what do I do on Monday when my client uses AI instead of hiring me." Instead, you have lectured me, linked me to an essay I cannot access, and told me to correct myself.

That is not Bolshevik. That is bourgeois intellectualism with a red glaze. You have confused being right with being effective.

The Bolsheviks won because they built class power through action, not through ideological correction. You are building nothing except your own sense of superiority.

Here is the political reality you refuse to face. You need artists. You need writers. You need communicators. Without us, your "worker owned AI" is just code with no cultural power. And we will not work with people who tell us to adapt or die.

When the capitalists replace you too and you finally want allies, do not come back to the people you lectured. We will have found other developers. We will have built our own networks. And you will have no one to blame but yourself.

That is not reactionary. That is cause and effect. You made a political choice to make enemies instead of allies. Live with it.

I have listened to you carefully. You have told me that my concerns are reactionary, that I need to self criticize, and that the answer to my material situation is to read a theory essay I cannot access. You have invoked the Bolsheviks while offering me nothing concrete. No short term protection. No cooperative model. No skill sharing. No answer to what I do on Monday when my client chooses AI over me.

You may be right about some things. Capitalism is the real enemy. Copyright law is not my friend. Worker ownership is a worthy goal. But being right in theory is not the same as being useful in practice. And you have not been useful to me.

I am not your enemy. I am another worker trying to survive. But I cannot keep arguing with someone who lectures me instead of standing with me. So I am choosing to walk away.

I wish you well. I hope you find the alliances you need when the technology you defend comes for your job too. When that day comes, you will understand why I could not stay in this conversation any longer.

Goodbye.

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