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Google's reCAPTCHA Fails De-Googled Android Users, Impacting Privacy
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I think they make their hardware choices pretty well known. The documentation on the site is pretty thorough. They're also very gradually broadening up to more vendors.
I'm not sure what you mean by the honeypot thing
Oh, so you just believe everything... Every CPU has undocumented instruction sets... For hardware to be trustworthy, it would have to be open-source... but that goes for SS7 and the like too... Oh, whatever—just trust your honeypot
You can't trust mobilephones. Simple
cool but like, that doesn't answer the question. do you use a phone? If so, which one?
wait are you my vanguard icefox? with the two little cats?
I use a totally ordinary Android phone with nothing important on it because I generally don't trust the thing. Leave my cute cats out of this. xD I'd rather have a device knowing that I can't trust it in principle than rely on an operating system when you still can't trust the hardware.
But yea its me. Hey vik xD
https://youtu.be/fM5w7bFNvWI A great talk at 39C3
aww I was hoping to see cats 😔
for whatever it's worth, you can regularly buy pixels at a loss around the holiday season. I'm not fond of buying google hardware but there's something beautiful about having them sell to you at a loss without being able to recoup via ads / telemetry.
and I feel as if there's some credence to projects like graphene when law enforcement get frustrated about its security and associate pixels with drug dealers on sight (like in Barcelona). i'll watch that talk though!
that said, I'm also exploring true Linux phones that can be used with postmarketOS. not expecting miracles or anything.
Yeah, my next phone will also be one that I can flash with Linux. Right now I have a Chinese spy Xiaomi.
lil loaf and purrito 🥰
How did you think of me right away, when I've hardly been online lately? :D Especially since I'm so unimportant. xD
Because of the pixels... I used to think about it, but I don't want Google hardware. I've also turned down iPhones that people wanted to gift me. I could have resold them, but nah.
your username is formatted in the exact same way! i always remember my vanguardians 🥰
You're faster than I am at editing xD
it's fine 😅
i can understand not wanting google hardware, particularly if SoC performance is important to you; the tensor series has always been underwhelming relative to its contemporaries. I think the Motorola partnership device will a Qualcomm SoC. hopefully this translates to having better perf and power efficiency, and it helps to have the backlog of knowledge from CAF / linaro.
to one of your earlier points, it would be nice if we had actual options from more trustworthy companies like NXP.
Well, either way, the future looks pretty dystopia. We’re just at the beginning of total surveillance. I wouldn’t be surprised if GitHub, GitLab, and the like were targeted soon. Or if they took action against something like GrapheneOS, etc. I’m losing interest more and more because of all these plans...
Proof or else its just blabla bla
It would be better to prove that it is secure. If you think about last year, for example (That applies to Qualcomm, so you'd have to check what hardware is installed. ) —CVE-2026-25262(But it's only now making headlines)—the question remains: what hasn't been discovered yet?
Oh look, grapheneOS was vulnerable... but it's been fixed now https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/35355-details-on-the-may-2026-android-security-bulletin (not same CVE)
https://forum.torproject.org/t/enabling-grapheneos-protections-causes-tor-browser-for-android-to-break/21535 lol
The focus is still on what has been discovered; the question remains: what has not yet been discovered?
Ty, for info
No problem. So grapheneOS will definitely prioritize security more than the others. But ultimately, it still relies on hardware that, by its very nature, cannot be trusted. Similarly, even the developers at grapheneOS can make mistakes. Therefore, you should generally view such systems as compromised and not trust them blindly. Then there are also methods like uXDT, where devices communicate with each other via sound (a frequency we cannot hear), and so on. Thats the reason I call it honeypotOS.
I never have 100% confidence in telephony or technology. Have just started with meshcore, reticulum also looks interesting.
Thanks for mentioning that. I haven't heard of Reticulum before, but it sounds interesting.