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[-] Murse@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

I understand the claim, what I'm saying is that it would be difficult to confirm. Not having a visual reference would mean their experience of visual input would be distinct from ours, but concluding that it doesn't happen at all is a stretch.

As a hypothesis, my guess would be their experience of visual sensation of a hallucination would come as raw input - flashes of light or something.

The problem would come with asking that person to tell you if they see flashes of light if they've never experienced real light. How their brain re-wired that chunk is a complete mystery to an outside observer. If visual processing is reassigned, it would be to something completely unrelated: like, light perception could now be tied to decision making, with good ideas feeling brighter vs risky ideas feeling dark. Or vice versa.

But to them, that processing of visual feedback isn't a visual experience, so asking if they've seen flashes of light would be like me asking you if you've ever tasted an ethical dilemma or some other concept: the question wouldn't make sense, and we would have no way to make it make sense without knowing ahead of time that it's tied to decision making. And if it was, a visual hallucination could come as making them feel erroneously confident about a risky behavior simply because the visual cortex is giving the perception of brightness to literally every thought.

So again, that would be really hard, if not impossible to assess, and claims to have done so would need a lot of evidence to back it up.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Not having a visual reference would mean their experience of visual input would be distinct from ours, but concluding that it doesn’t happen at all is a stretch.

It literally would...

Because of the type of blindness they're talking about...

You don't understand anything else, because you're still trying to talk about any sort of visual impairment

I'm sorry I can not explain this in a way you can understand, but I've also lost all motivation to try with anything else at this point.

You'll need to find someone else

[-] Murse@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

It literally would... Because of the type of blindness they're talking about...

An article talking about something doesn't make it true. "Because of the type of blindness we're talking about" doesn't explain anything, and that kind of 'trust me bro' blanket pseudo-rationalization doesn't scratch the surface of how we'd be able to understand the perceptions of someone who's preceptive foundation is fundamentally different from our own.

But keep telling me how that doesn't mesh with the article.

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