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[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Shit’s way cheaper. And I am curious about their cars, nothing wrong with that.

[-] outandinburger@ttrpg.network -1 points 2 days ago

So you want a cheap EV, and you don’t really care where it’s from. Additionally, you are curious about their cars.

(There is nothing wrong with being curious about their cars)

[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

On top of that, the Chinese manufacturers seem willing to add more creature comforts or (admittedly) useless features. It’s cheaper and made to a vision outside what my domestic market provides, and way more enticing than any EV i could think of now.

Probably the best part is cutting out dealers because they’ve put the domestic industry in a terrible position overcharging for every available make and model for sale, thinking that the market can hold the high prices they demand because they still think people still have spare cash from covid. Now their overstock inventory hasnt moved for some up to a half a year, and they’re trying to cut prices down because their stock is bought via financing, which I’ve recently learned “punishes” dealers if stock doesnt move after 3 months by shooting up the interest rates, lighting a fire under their ass.

This is a problem of their own making, and having a new competitor helps shake up these markets

Now if Peru entered the automotive market with something it would be interesting for other reasons, I know Peru doesnt have the industry to make EVs and i dont find it fruitful to think in these kinds of hypotheticals. Their needs would produce a different kind of vehicle entirely

[-] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 days ago

Seems like I might not be wording this in a way that is being understood. To me this is the kind of question that is yes or no. Let me try again:

If an identical product was made by a company in your country by local workers, would you still want it from China?

[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

I would want the chinese one. If BYD were to open domestic manufacturing in america, the entire cost savings angle would be gone, absorbed by inefficient manufacturing, incredibly inept management, and a board of directors only seeking profit. Under these conditions there can BE no identical product.

As with other things, I am far more interested in the foreign produced product than I am with any domestically made one. Be it practical, like price, or a romance to them, like the idea of a culture of craftspeople who engage in the art of their professions.

I find no use in engaging with the prospect that a similar car made in america could be as enticing because there wont ever be one, certainly if the chinese examples dont make it to our shores first, You cant ask me to compare a BYD Han to anything in Ford’s lineup. Maybe you could compare it to a hybrid or all electric Honda Accord, but already considering a Chinese electric from the start gives you an answer.

Unless you’re trying to compare them to Teslas. In which case there’s no comparison, Teslas are junk

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Yes. The Chinese one is cheaper and better.

This is like your 10th comment basically saying the same thing, you seem to really be struggling with this. It's a very simple concept

[-] outandinburger@ttrpg.network -1 points 2 days ago

Well, it’s not cheaper or better, it’s the same price and it’s identical.

So, local manufacturer for the same price and identical or China?

[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

That's just such a ridiculous hypothetical that it's hard to engage with. The US doesn't make cheap, good cars, and for those of us who live here it's simply laughable that they ever could.

If someone came to me and said "here's an ev made by an american company that's as good as one made by a Chinese company", I'd likely laugh in their face and then buy the Chinese ev if I'm in the market for a car. Because I simply would never believe the claim that an american company made a good electric car, and furthermore I'd assume whoever was trying to convince me that they had was probably a paid shill or a grifter of some description. And I'd almost certainly be right.

[-] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 days ago

The point of a hypothetical is that it’s hypothetical.

What Chinese cars have you driven?

[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Alright. So usually hypotheticals have some point to them, some idea or argument you're trying to use them to convey. Would you mind telling me what point you're using this hypothetical to convey? Maybe then I can understand what answer you're looking for. I am legitimately curious, I hope this doesn't come off as trolling or dismissive!

I haven't driven any Chinese cars. Sure would love to some day! Have you seen the range some of them get? And they actually make decent small cars too! I really hope they start getting imported to america in large numbers soon

[-] bunnossin@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

you say chinese cars are cheaper and better, but if american cars were also cheap and good you wouldnt want the chinese cars. checkmate liberal smuglord

[-] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 day ago

I never said American, checkmate.

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