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Accept the peace offer and set the new border of Ukraine such that the Russian-speaking people whom the state-armed militias were shelling before the invasion are all on the Russian side.
Then there will no longer be people the Ukrainians regard as Russians in Ukraine.
The last years of the Donetsk conflict have seen double-digits civilian casualties. There were about 2000 in the first year, then there was exponential decline.
Have you compared recent pictures of Donetsk with Mariopol or Bakhmut? I'll give you a hint: One is still standing. If Ukraine wanted to it could easily flatten Donetsk, it's in artillery range. A million Russian-speaking inhabitants, if Ukrainians are so genocidal why don't they just go for it?
Russia killed more civilians in the first months of the 2022 invasion that died overall in Donetsk and Luhansk since 2014. A fuckton of those Russian-speaking (like in e.g. Mariopol). Russia abducted more children than died in the "people's republics".
In other words: Shut the fuck up with your "Ukraine is shelling Russian-speaking Ukrainians" bullshit. Either you're severely misinformed, or a straight-up Putin bot.
And with that in mind: Do you seriously think that the proper way to react to an invasion, an invasion which comes with near uncountable human rights abuses and disregard for the civilian population, to react to that with "Oh, since you're asking so nicely Russia, here, have a cookie"? No. Fuck that, fuck you, and fuck everything you believe in.
You really shouldn't uncritically accept anything Ukraine or Russia says about the war. Of course they're going to say the other side is targeting civilians while we only attack valid military targets. Don't you remember Libya? Iraq? Afghanistan? Bosnia? We know how the news operates in these situations.
This is misframing refugees fleeing into Russia as abduction. These aren't moustache-twirling villains.
Yes: We have plenty of reports about shit that people did. And we have the same now.
a) UN. b) Have you watched the Russian state TV shows where they parade them? If you know anything about body language they were screaming "The fuck why do I have to say this vile shit they put in my mouth I want out of here".
Indeed not, but only because Putin doesn't have a beard.
Why are you defending a genocidal regime? It's hitting all five points of the UN genocide convention, one would suffice.