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[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

I still say fuck them and push back and that total control is there end goal.

However. I agree with what they're putting in place at this time. It's a one time 24 hour hold before you can install apks from unknown places.

Unfortunately, a lot of people are pieces of shit, and I know for pretty much a fact that making this move will prevent old people from getting scammed. Especially for more targeted attacks where you can use ai to fake one of their relatives voices. It pumps a brake on scammers getting people to grant access while under a panic.

So if you're tech savvy, you'll just have to wait an extra 24 hours before you can start side loading after a phone reset or new phone purchase. Not a big deal if it keeps my pops from having his bank account drained. The guy got in a panic when his Facebook billiards game lost his score data. The guy would have left his phone with someone for a week if they told him they could have gotten it back.

[-] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

It's an attempt to functionally black list every android developer that doesn't want to give Google their personally identifiable information and fuck you for carrying water for this full on fucking fascist move. Your argument is bullshit.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago

....Do you not know what they're implementing?

All it is, is a one time 24 hour hold when you want to install a non play store apk. You click "allow apks from unknown sources" and then a day later your phone behaves just as it does right now. The end.

[-] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Except google has no business telling me what the fuck I can and can't do with my own fuckin property. Good for you that you like the taste of boot leather and the feeling of a heel on your neck but it's none of googles fucking business what I do with my devices in the first place including what I install on them. And the fact you're deliberately ignoring the clear chilling effect this will have on android open source developers by attempting to force them to register with Google proves you're engaging in bad faith and a shill. Go throat your boot somewhere they tolerate quislings.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago

"oh my God. Oh dear. No. Not 24 hours before I can install f-droid. I'm crippled. Wasting away to nothingness. My edgelord life is ruined. I'm never going to leave the basement again. This one day has ruined anything worth living for. Bleeeeaaagh"

[-] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm glad you like the taste of boot leather, I don't. Quislings giving away their rights left and right.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

I just don't mind a days worth of unconvince fir something that I know for a fact will end up helping some people. Waiting a single day to install whatever I want is a non issue and is better than the OS getting further locked down from apk permissions. It's already bad enough that there's so many root restrictions you can't really get around anymore.

[-] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 minutes ago

This is the OS getting further locked down.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago

This is clearly not designed to keep people secure. If it was, Google would not force you to make your device less secure to install apps of your choice.

[-] pfried@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The only way it reduces security is by increasing the attack surface. There is no "now anybody can get root on your phone" vulnerability for enabling developer options, and if there were, Google would patch it. I always enable developer options as soon as I get a new device.

Because of this, the audit described in the "Other" link is deprecated.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

I always enable developer options as soon as I get a new device.

That's great for you, but you and I are not the targets that Google is supposedly trying to protect from supposed scams.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 days ago

Lol at what you call "proof". Also, no one said you had to leave it enabled. Also, also, dev options is a security risk BECAUSE it allows for side loading. Hahaha

[-] Vocalize8711@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Security should not control us, we should control security. In other words, this is not the right solution.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago

There's a middle ground between complete disregard and complete lockdown. If you've got a better solution to scammers that isn't going to drain your battery, invade your privacy, or hog up resources, I'm all ears. Grow up a little and maybe stop being so "me" centric.

[-] Vocalize8711@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tone it down. Do you still want to be nurtured by the big corporations like them being your mommy? A solution is already out there, it is called secure boot. Google has unnecessarily convoluted the boot chain, and even the OS VM.

Do you think UEFI on a smartphone is a bad idea?

Also, the Android VM is not even necessary, it just makes development cumbersome, cross-platform compatibility worse, and I could go on.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

It's not for me. It's for the tech illiterate. Secure boot doesn't stop you from granting remote access apps from running.

[-] Vocalize8711@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Security at the userspace level should be taken care of by the company behind the apps.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

You mean the side loaded app anyone could make to allow remote device use of a phone if you install it?

[-] Vocalize8711@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No, take an example of a 2FA mandatory authentication for a bank transaction, security taken care at userspace.

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