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Why hasn't the Gotham justice system executed him then? Why not put the onus of them? Or any GCPD cop turning off his bodycam to shoot someone who deserves it for once?
Batman generally doesn't kill because, in all the interesting comics, he realizes that he is mentally unwell and, if he starts down that route, he won't know where he ends up. That's why there are so many stories of plans Batman made to stop himself (generally be suborned by someone else and putting him and others in immediate danger). He's a nutcase with a lot of money who's afraid of himself but trying to do the right thing.
Your stance only holds any water when the villains are literally unable to be physically managed by anyone except one of these demigods.
That's my whole fuckin point.
These are exactly the people that should be straight up killed.
They can't be contained. They can't be reasoned with. They can't be controlled.
They just kill and kill and kill and kill and kill.
The only way to stop them is to kill them. It's that simple.
You need to read Batman White Knight. That deals with the whole concept of whether the Joker can be redeemed or not really well.
Imo it doesn't matter whether or not he can be redeemed. He's killed so many people that his life is forfeit
That'd be like saying Hitler or Stalin were worth keeping around because their multiverse counterpart was able to do good.
I mean, I don't believe in caltial punishment so I'd disagree with the "life being forefit" idea in any sense.
The book deals with the idea that the persona was a mental illness and with treatment he becomes a useful member of society again actually entering politics and improving the city.
The Joker is physically a normal human being. He gets out of prison due to manipulation, not because he punches through steel and concrete. So again, it's not Batman's position, right, or responsibility to execute him.
And you believe they exist in significant numbers.
The Jeffrey Dahmers and John Wayne Gacies of the world are extremely rare.
Far more common are the gypsy cops police officers who kill, are covered by internal affairs until evidence goes public and then lose their job... until they're hired in a new precinct. Derek Chauvin was the exception because we had nationwide protests to which the federal government reacted badly. Meanwhile our ICE troopers are acting like fucking Sicherheitsdienst (and I hope some decade nazi hunters go after them for their crimes against humanity.)
But the real damage comes from the Gates and Bezoses and Musks in the world. The Koch brothers may have singlehandedly killed us all by instilling doubt in a climate problem we've known about since WWI, and deferring global response so that we're still not doing enough a century later, when the world is literally on fire. All the serial killers and gang lords and street purse snatchers and whatever else is represented by Frank Miller's mutant overlord do anything compared to Purdue Pharmacy and the Sacklers. Or DuPont chemical poisoning the global water supply with PFOA.
And yes, they kill and kill and kill but they also control the entities that control the justice system. Kinda like ~~Jeff Bezos~~ Lex Luthor.