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Answering the genocide of a decrepit fascist empire with a nuclear Holocaust against civilians accomplishes absolutely nothing and is a demented, depraved, and reactionary revenge fantasy.
Nuclear bombardment would have had absolutely zero ideological effect, whether ten more were dropped, or a hundred.
Also I don't know what your sources are, but the cities were absolutely starving, with a maximum ration count of 1,000 a day for priority workers, and 800 calories for everyone else. Those were also hopeful estimates, and the estimated caloric intake of a Japanese civilian was 300-500 calories a day, no sodium intake, little to no protein, and no vitamin B sources. Yes, the cities were industrialized and wealthy, but all that wealth doesn't buy you any food when all the transportation infrastructure, both maritime and land-based is in utter ruin after incessant air bombardment. The cities were relatively unscathed as the military value of both was limited, but the rail lines, roads, depots, and port facilities were essentially gone. The destruction was so thorough that air attacks and submarines began targeting tiny sampams since there was quite literally nothing else to bomb.
None of that distracts from the fact that salivating for the deaths of civilians is disgusting. Too can play at that game with the personal anecdote too, because you know what? My entire family tree was killed in the Holocaust. Every other family thread is gone. I am the only member of my generation as the few survivors didn't have kids beyond my grandmother, who had one. You know what else? Dropping nukes on Berlin, Hamburg, Essen, Cologne, Dresden, Kiel, Munich, and every other German city wouldn't have brought them back even if sometimes I believe that that's what the Germans deserved. Instead, I'm happy that the Soviet's managed to reform a portion of the Germans into one of the best examples of a socialist state the world has seen to date, where even the descendants in the now annexed Eastern Germany still keep the flames of revolution alive.
Do some self-reflection comrade. Answering genocide with mindless slaughter is fools errand, unproductive, and a reactionary tendency.
You're correct in you're total assessment but I wanted to expand the bombardment would have zero ideological effect. The US has constantly resorted to bombardment over ground invasion and the reality is that in every war it practiced this strategy it has not succeeded. Especially if we believe the emperor's account that the USSR was cause for their eventual surrender.
The US is constantly bombarding civilian populations and failing to bring about victory and claiming it was because they hadn't violated enough rules of war. That they hadn't ye bombed enough hospitals, or children, or families, or historical sites. That if only they had been allowed to bomb a little more, they surely would have broken the spirit of the country. The reality is that none of these function as an extension of the military in any meaningful way. The targeting of the civilians is almost a punishment for a military that is able to secure themselves defensively. It can also result in the "Guerilla math" talked about in the Cuban, Vietnam, and Afghanistan conflict
A country with a fascist, liberal, or otherwise bourgeois controlled government in general will have little, if any impact from its proletariat dying in such numbers for a war. But the US's really shows it's severe weakness in these situations as a paper tiger. Huge displays of power that result in no meaningful progress towards their goals. Simply causing immense suffering.