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That's literally so wrong.
Why did Spidey become a hero in the first place? Because the cops couldn't find the killer, so Peter did and killed the guy. Which was not justice.
So many heroes of NY in Marvel are focused on justice and the concept of what is justice. The Punisher kills, Daredevil punishes, Spidey is learning. Sometimes he lets people go, otherwise he believes imprisonment is an alternative. Sometimes there is an option that don't fit either.
The point is Spider-Man knows killing isn't justice and the cops/system doesn't either, he literally is an enemy to police always. He simply is trying to make a dangerous world a little more safe in his local area.
Fuck out of here with your fake ass political take. Especially such a terrible one.
There's a reason the Punisher is the unofficial mascot for the Thin Blue Line community.
In the Spider-man series, what is the problem that is plaguing Queens, that is driving Spider-man to vigilantism?
Punisher's creator hates that cops use the Skull:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/06/11/the-creator-of-the-punisher-wants-to-reclaim-the-iconic-skull-from-police-and-fringe-admirers/
You're barking up the wrong tree with your misguided "superhero's are police propaganda" there's plenty of heroes who go against the cops, like the Punisher, and plenty of villains with valid points, like Magneto. Overall Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created the heroes they created together to inspire their readers to be good people, and they created those heroes in very inclusive ways to represent all of us and our flaws.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46192799
Pax et Justitia
Magneto has to threaten the lives of thousands (if not millions) so that he can still qualify as a villain and his valid points can be dismissed. The same is true of all the other masterminds who want to shift the world from the status quo.
To be fair, maybe you're right and police in comics set in the United States from 2016 - 2023+ routinely escalate non-violent situations to violence and routinely kill people who are neither armed nor resisting, sometimes who aren't even responsive, and are then cleared of wrongdoing by internal affairs. Maybe police in these comics do over-police non-white neighborhoods and harass people on the street for no pretextual reason other than they looked suspicious Maybe in these comics houses routinely get breached-and-cleared by SWAT teams sometimes leading to the injury and death of whole families. Maybe police in comics are addressing homeless by raiding tent colonies with CS gas and batons, sometimes killing or hospitalizing children among their victims.
If they aren't doing that then they're misrepresenting the police across the nation.
And yes, maybe young people in well-to-do suburban communities would rather see superheroes punch the tar out of brightly colored crime clowns than face the real circumstances in their society. In capitalism, the house always wins.
The punisher literally kills cops he deems to be corrupt and hates cops that admire him. Conservatives have literally no media literacy, is Killing in the Name pro cop because the Thin Blue Line crowd was dancing to it?
Yes, a concession that lends the assumption that some people in law enforcement are not bad, are not part of an institution that is actively oppressing the public.
I'd say this is no longer the case but has always been the case for large swaths of the US population. We just now have a regular stream of videos of officer involved homicide.