β² 161 βΌ UK moves to ban smoking for everyone born after 2008 (www.dw.com) submitted 4 months ago by You@feddit.org to c/europe@feddit.org 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) IDK if I'd bother with the black market to acquire cigarettes if they were already illegal when I turned 18. Not the most exciting drug. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] user_name@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago Donβt even need them to be fully illegal to have black market demand. Eric Garner was selling loose (untaxed) cigarettes when the state executed him on the street in 2014. Thereβll be demand for any black market no matter how apparently trivial the prohibition or unappealing the product, especially if the product is addictive. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) So you've never seen an underage person smoke? Kids already ignore the law and get cigarettes from adults or stores that don't bother checking their ID, so it's not even a hypothetical, it's just reality. Prohibition doesn't work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consider that the UK is becoming more and more of a surveillance-state, though. I doubt that "store clerk 'forgets' to check for ID" is going to stay a thing. I'm not saying that a black market won't exist, but it's going to become more like buying "hard" illegal drugs is today, i.e. much harder than for drugs that are currently legal for all adults. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think you have zero clue how easy it is for children to buy hard drugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. I think you overestimate the willingness of most people to buy illegal drugs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. Sorry to tell you this, but you weren't one of the cool kids then. People either didn't like you, or thought you were a snitch, if you've never at the very least been offered weed as a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) No but a good cigar with a scotch or a coffee is always good. Occasionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Always good occasionally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) 5% of the time it's good 100% of the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago Gotcha. I haven't smoked in years, but a good single malt Scotch or Irish is definitely good with a good chocolate or green. For that matter, I've not drank whiskey in years either, but I can still vividly recall the flavors. permalink fedilink source parent [β] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Giant bong rips is where it's at, as long as they don't make weed illegal I'm good! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago Do you honestly think they aren't going to do that? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] user_name@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago Donβt even need them to be fully illegal to have black market demand. Eric Garner was selling loose (untaxed) cigarettes when the state executed him on the street in 2014. Thereβll be demand for any black market no matter how apparently trivial the prohibition or unappealing the product, especially if the product is addictive. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) So you've never seen an underage person smoke? Kids already ignore the law and get cigarettes from adults or stores that don't bother checking their ID, so it's not even a hypothetical, it's just reality. Prohibition doesn't work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consider that the UK is becoming more and more of a surveillance-state, though. I doubt that "store clerk 'forgets' to check for ID" is going to stay a thing. I'm not saying that a black market won't exist, but it's going to become more like buying "hard" illegal drugs is today, i.e. much harder than for drugs that are currently legal for all adults. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think you have zero clue how easy it is for children to buy hard drugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. I think you overestimate the willingness of most people to buy illegal drugs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. Sorry to tell you this, but you weren't one of the cool kids then. People either didn't like you, or thought you were a snitch, if you've never at the very least been offered weed as a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Consider that the UK is becoming more and more of a surveillance-state, though. I doubt that "store clerk 'forgets' to check for ID" is going to stay a thing. I'm not saying that a black market won't exist, but it's going to become more like buying "hard" illegal drugs is today, i.e. much harder than for drugs that are currently legal for all adults. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think you have zero clue how easy it is for children to buy hard drugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. I think you overestimate the willingness of most people to buy illegal drugs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. Sorry to tell you this, but you weren't one of the cool kids then. People either didn't like you, or thought you were a snitch, if you've never at the very least been offered weed as a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) I think you have zero clue how easy it is for children to buy hard drugs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. I think you overestimate the willingness of most people to buy illegal drugs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. Sorry to tell you this, but you weren't one of the cool kids then. People either didn't like you, or thought you were a snitch, if you've never at the very least been offered weed as a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. I think you overestimate the willingness of most people to buy illegal drugs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. Sorry to tell you this, but you weren't one of the cool kids then. People either didn't like you, or thought you were a snitch, if you've never at the very least been offered weed as a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid. Sorry to tell you this, but you weren't one of the cool kids then. People either didn't like you, or thought you were a snitch, if you've never at the very least been offered weed as a kid permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago OK? That's not really what this is about. If only "cool" kids can buy drugs, that leaves a large amount of people who can't. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) No but a good cigar with a scotch or a coffee is always good. Occasionally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Always good occasionally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) 5% of the time it's good 100% of the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago Gotcha. I haven't smoked in years, but a good single malt Scotch or Irish is definitely good with a good chocolate or green. For that matter, I've not drank whiskey in years either, but I can still vividly recall the flavors. permalink fedilink source parent [β] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Giant bong rips is where it's at, as long as they don't make weed illegal I'm good! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago Do you honestly think they aren't going to do that? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Always good occasionally? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) 5% of the time it's good 100% of the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago Gotcha. I haven't smoked in years, but a good single malt Scotch or Irish is definitely good with a good chocolate or green. For that matter, I've not drank whiskey in years either, but I can still vividly recall the flavors. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) 5% of the time it's good 100% of the times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago Gotcha. I haven't smoked in years, but a good single malt Scotch or Irish is definitely good with a good chocolate or green. For that matter, I've not drank whiskey in years either, but I can still vividly recall the flavors. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago Gotcha. I haven't smoked in years, but a good single malt Scotch or Irish is definitely good with a good chocolate or green. For that matter, I've not drank whiskey in years either, but I can still vividly recall the flavors. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tomiant@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Giant bong rips is where it's at, as long as they don't make weed illegal I'm good! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago Do you honestly think they aren't going to do that? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago Do you honestly think they aren't going to do that? permalink fedilink source parent