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Well hello again everybody! This has been a wonderful past couple of days. I want to give a huge thank you to everybody who participated in my Under New Management post from Thursday. There was a lot of great feedback, and it will go a long way to helping me better understand all of your wants and needs for this community. Yay!

Yes, this will be wordy. Read it anyway. I will try to be concise.

I spent the entirety of Thursday afternoon and evening working through the over 600 reports that existed for the community. There are still a little less than 200 more left to work through. To be fully transparent, I was given the option of simply mass clearing all of the reports so that I could start with a clean slate. Halfway through, it was very tempting to take the powers-that-be (PtB) up on their generous offer. πŸ˜… But, I wanted to see the reports and see what was being reported (and also by whom). Again, this is my way of learning about this community and its members.

The first thing I want to say is this: for the time being, I have decided that @beep@piefed.world is allowed to stay – with conditions. I have reached out privately to them about their past behavior, and they conveyed that they will respect the rules going forward. I have conveyed back to them that their continued use of the community is contingent on their ability to not break the rules going forward (especially with the alteration of comics). With this said, I fully expect this to ruffle quite a few of those proverbial feathers. But, for better or for worse, the decision is made. Please do not report their posts/comments merely because of who they are. If you do report them for anything, do it because it actually breaks the rules (be sure to be specific about what rules).

With this out of the way, I also want to take a moment to welcome the following people to our moderation team:

  • @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
  • @Harvey656@lemmy.world
  • @slazer2au@lemmy.world
  • @Otter@lemmy.ca
  • @cannedtuna@lemmy.world
  • @18107@aussie.zone

They have each reached out in some capacity to ask for this job, and I see no reason to not bring them aboard to help out. I expect that they will do their very best to ensure that this community, and its visitors, are treated fairly and with the upmost respect they deserve. Let's be sure that they get the same in return. Everyone made it a strong point that we are all adults here, so let's be sure to act like it.

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I seriously doubt the community values artist integrity less than "hundreds of existing discussions"

No, it does not, which is why I applied it only as justification not to enforce the per-day rule as it should've been before; violations of those rules are no longer harming anyone in the way the rule was designed to prevent.

If I dig up an old comic with the word "fuck" in it that was never removed, would you remove it now that curse words are allowed?

As I said, I don't enforce rules ex post facto. There was no such rule before, but let's say it existed. I would not, and you have to know that's meaningfully different. Punishing someone ex post facto is very different from granting leniency ex post facto. "I've decided this is bad, so I'm going to actively punish it retroactively" is extremely different from "I've decided this is fine, so I'm no longer going to prosecute it." You definitely understand that "I'm criminalizing weed, so you who smoked it a year ago are off to jail" and "I'm decriminalizing weed, so I'm going to drop existing charges" are completely different regardless of your stance on weed (although I know roughly what both of ours are).

And, of course, that's not even the case here; no actual rule (unlike the "fuck" one) was broken at the time it was posted, so I'm not setting a precedent that we can change the rules at any time and apply them retroactively.

The point of having rules around content isn't to punish users who break the rules. It's to shape this place into the community we want it to be.

Actually, the rules are around to protect the users and what they contribute here – so they can safely post and comment knowing what's in-bounds and have grounds to object if they think they were unfairly punished. If I wanted to "shape this place into the community we want it to be", I could just go around removing whatever because I think it beautifies the community. I don't apply ex post facto punishments, and I'm likely to grant leniency ex post facto; these two are entirely consistent with each other.

I can probably link at least one thread where I went off on Beep if you think any of this is meant to stick up for them specifically. I requested to moderate expressly because Beep was ruining the community, and I was even surprised to see them granted amnesty and tried to see a silver lining.

You're welcome to think I'm a misguided idealist, but my hobbies are creating copyleft software, copyleft prose, copyleft media, and copyleft data requiring attribution, so if you think any of this is because I'd wish to wipe every one of Beep's de-attributed posts any less than you, you're understandably but sorely mistaken. I feel Beep spat in my face personally along with the rest of my community's. I just don't have a proper justification within the rules – and that includes the per-day limit applied as a backdoor in a way that's not in the spirit of that rule.

That said, I will show no leniency to intentionally de-attributed posts in the future, and I'll be making sure all have proper credit.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ok, those are all great things to hear from a mod.

But it doesn't solve the problem at hand. These vandalized images are still right there, doing harm, making things worse for comic artists. How do we get them removed?

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

@dohpaz42@lemmy.world On the grounds that no moderator was here to listen to the will of the users and therefore (exceedingly likely, due to overwhelming backlash) make a rule against intentionally de-attributed comics, I would like to ask your permission to go back and remove Beep's posts of de-attributed comics.

I make a point not to apply rules ex post facto, but this is an extenuating circumstance where 1) there's almost a 100% chance such a rule would've existed if the community had been moderated, 2) Beep was obviously, intentionally, and maliciously taking advantage of that fact, and 3) the posts are still intentionally harmful to artists as they stay up. I emphasize points 1 and 2 for why ex post facto removal is entirely fair in this case and point 3 for why it should be used. This isn't an ad populum argument; I wouldn't be doing this if I just thought it was the popular option. (See above.)

this post was submitted on 11 Apr 2026
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