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Orban has conceded (www.france24.com)
submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) by Frostbeard@lemmy.world to c/europa@lemmy.world

Seems they can get the necessary 2/3 of the 199 seats to start righting the changes done by Orban

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[-] rainwall@piefed.social 15 points 19 hours ago

How so? Hes aligned with the EU, aligned with Ukraine, and wants Russia to kick rocks. Hes also talked about unfucking hungary's courts, media consolidation and electrion rules that the outgoing facist rigged.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

He's also extremely nationalist, anti-immigration, and his attitude to LGBT is silence (which is only marginally better than hatred)

Hes aligned with the EU

EU is a trading bloc and fascists love money. More extreme ones hate others more than they love money, but it's not universal.

aligned with Ukraine, and wants Russia to kick rocks

There's nothing stopping fascists from supporting Ukraine, there are plenty of nazis there too. It's not as bad as russian propaganda makes it out to be but it is a reason why some on the right/far-right support it.

Hes also talked about unfucking hungary’s courts, media consolidation and electrion rules that the outgoing facist rigged.

This would be good overall. Whether he follows through with it or just re-fucks the institutions in his favor remains to be seen

Overall I'd say he's like a Hungarian Meloni - a fascist (or close to one) willing to cooperate with liberals to make money together.

[-] mech@feddit.org 9 points 18 hours ago

He's against continuing Hungary's further path to a dictatorship without due process or real elections, which is the best Hungary can get at the moment.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 18 hours ago

He’s also extremely nationalist, anti-immigration, and his attitude to LGBT is silence (which is only marginally better than hatred)

Can we stop the idpol a bit? He is also campaigning on wealth taxes, fighting back against oligarchs and corporations, anti-corruption, strong social safety nets paid by reclaimed wealth and so on.

What do you expect a politician to be if not nationalistic? He was running for national office. If anything, he supports international collaboration with pro-EU forces in the V4. He is not even staunchly anti-immigration, the whole thing with that was just pointing out hipocrisy in the government. Same with LGBT rights, in an ideal society it should just be normal and nobody should care, especially not the government.

[-] rapchee@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

he did say he liked orban's immigration policies, when an interviewer asked for 3 things magyar likes about orban. (when they asked orban the same, he couldn't say anything)

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

Can we stop the idpol a bit?

As a trans person? No, we can't. Fuck you

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Can we stop the idpol a bit?

No. Combining pseudo-socialist economic policies with conservative social policies is literally national-socialism which you might know by some other names

He is also campaigning on wealth taxes, fighting back against oligarchs and corporations, anti-corruption, strong social safety nets paid by reclaimed wealth and so on.

I checked the full election platform and there's some OK stuff in there (wealth tax, increased pensions, social housing, women's rights as workers). The rest is liberal policies (e.g. nationalizing bankrupcy and debt foreclosure agencies) and tax cuts for lower and middle class. It is for sure better than Orban but overall it's not very progressive

What do you expect a politician to be if not nationalistic?

Uhhh I want my politicians to support the international working class. I expect them to not be overtly nationalist at a minimum. Internationalism is a thing.

He is not even staunchly anti-immigration

He said he liked Orban's draconian immigration policies and he cracked jokes (or insane slander, hard to tell) at immigrant's expense

Same with LGBT rights, in an ideal society it should just be normal and nobody should care, especially not the government.

Definitely not when the government discriminated and abused LGBT people for decades, propagandized society and stoked hatred against them. It needs to be dealt with and spoken about. We still live in a patriarchy and its victims need protection and support.

[-] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

No. Combining pseudo-socialist economic policies with conservative social policies is literally national-socialism which you might know by some other names

Without getting into the rest of it, that is not the case whatsoever. The Nazis weren’t even pseudo-socialist, they were definitely capitalist. There was still a capitalist class profiting off of the slavery and war, but only so long as they remained loyal to the party.

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