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Orban has conceded (www.france24.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by Frostbeard@lemmy.world to c/europa@lemmy.world

Seems they can get the necessary 2/3 of the 199 seats to start righting the changes done by Orban

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[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Can we stop the idpol a bit?

No. Combining pseudo-socialist economic policies with conservative social policies is literally national-socialism which you might know by some other names

He is also campaigning on wealth taxes, fighting back against oligarchs and corporations, anti-corruption, strong social safety nets paid by reclaimed wealth and so on.

I checked the full election platform and there's some OK stuff in there (wealth tax, increased pensions, social housing, women's rights as workers). The rest is liberal policies (e.g. nationalizing bankrupcy and debt foreclosure agencies) and tax cuts for lower and middle class. It is for sure better than Orban but overall it's not very progressive

What do you expect a politician to be if not nationalistic?

Uhhh I want my politicians to support the international working class. I expect them to not be overtly nationalist at a minimum. Internationalism is a thing.

He is not even staunchly anti-immigration

He said he liked Orban's draconian immigration policies and he cracked jokes (or insane slander, hard to tell) at immigrant's expense

Same with LGBT rights, in an ideal society it should just be normal and nobody should care, especially not the government.

Definitely not when the government discriminated and abused LGBT people for decades, propagandized society and stoked hatred against them. It needs to be dealt with and spoken about. We still live in a patriarchy and its victims need protection and support.

[-] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

No. Combining pseudo-socialist economic policies with conservative social policies is literally national-socialism which you might know by some other names

Without getting into the rest of it, that is not the case whatsoever. The Nazis weren’t even pseudo-socialist, they were definitely capitalist. There was still a capitalist class profiting off of the slavery and war, but only so long as they remained loyal to the party.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

The nazis absolutely did use social-populist rhetoric and promises on their way to power, and even did implement some nominally "socialist" policies like nationalization of certain war-related industries, public works, price controls, and a large degree of planning. It was also combined with union busting, privatization of other industries, huge deficit spending with intent to reclaim it with war plunder, and other obviously capitalist/imperialist moves, so it wasn't real economic socialism of course. That said, Magyar's platform is definitely nowhere near economic socialism either, it's welfare capitalism at best.

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